Just because the Browns currently have two polarizing members of the 2012 quarterback class doesn’t mean they’re giving up a pursuit of Jimmy Garoppolo. Cleveland still intends to try and trade for the Patriots’ backup quarterback, league sources tell Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com.
Ian Rapoport of NFL.com tweets this remains the Browns’ intention (Twitter link), but Rapoport believes the Patriots want to hang onto Garoppolo. A league source told Cabot a package fronted only by Cleveland’s No. 12 pick this year won’t be enough to land Garoppolo. The Patriots are believed to want the Browns’ No. 1 overall pick, which Cleveland is expected to use to take Myles Garrett.
The Browns, though, have now acquired an extra second-round pick thanks to their unorthodox Brock Osweiler acquisition. Cleveland now has two first-rounders and two second-rounders this year and three second-round selections in 2018. A combination of those would be enough ammunition to get the Patriots to consider trading Garoppolo, in all likelihood.
As for Osweiler, the Browns are shopping him across the league after acquiring the sixth-year quarterback and a second-round pick.
The new-era front office is trying to trade Osweiler and a late-round pick for a 2018 third-round selection, Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com tweets. In making these trade inquiries, the Browns are informing teams they are prepared to eat at least half of Osweiler’s $16MM price tag in order to facilitate this trade, per La Canfora (on Twitter). The reporter adds the Browns are “fixated” on a third-round pick, leading many to believe they’re ready to deal a collection of picks to the Patriots for Garoppolo (Twitter link).
The Patriots initially pulled Garoppolo off the trade market but may want either two first-rounders or a first and a second for their longtime backup. Cabot reiterates the Patriots are likely to want a first this year and the Browns’ 2018 first-round selection. New England’s asking price may stem from wanting to make sure it has a backup plan in case a soon-to-be 40-year-old Tom Brady begins to slip despite not showing much evidence of that during his age-39 season.
While expected to take a quarterback in the draft, Cleveland is believed to be ready to release Robert Griffin III.
Mary Cay Cabot has lost any respect in my opinion as a sports writer and if that is truly the Patriots cost then no team will make the trade. At best a second round pick is Grappolo’s worth. No team should pay anymore.
Right. Common belief is they want to keep him. If someone offered 8 first rounders for Brady too they’d take it, but no one would offer that.
Agree. He was picked 64th and has proven nothing.
He is worth at least a first and second. Franchise quarterbacks are few and far between and if you have the chance to get one in the NFL you do it everytime.
Please, he hasn’t proven that he’s a franchise QB. What’s he done, 6 quarters in 3 years? Add to that every team passed on him TWICE before he was drafted.
This whole scenario is just Mary Kay having a very bad nightmare. Hopefully she wakes up soon.
How many teams passed on Brady five times before he was picked? Where a player was selected means absolutely nothing.
So Garoppolo after 6 quarters equals Brady. Wow.
Did I say that? I simply said that where a player is selected has no bearing on what they become.
That was quite the reach he by no means compared him to Brady.
Who is that franchise QB they’d be trading for because Garoppolo certainly isn’t one based on 1’1/2 starts. Ryan Leaf won his first 2 starts. Robert Griffin was a superstar after 14 his rookie year. How much would you have traded for him back then and he lasted longer without geting hurt and played better than Garoppolo over a longer period of time. See how silly that notion is in hindsight and why no one is going to trade anything near what Mary Kay Cabot keeps saying for Garoppolo. If anything, they can wait until he’s a FA because this Cleveland team isn’t going to be good for a couple of more years at least.
There is no telling the Jimmy G will be. I wouldnt give up more then a pick 33 and a 3rd rounder next year. You also have to remember that Jimmy G will be a free agent soon so you will have to pay him 16-19 million a year. Where as if you take a QB at 12 then you are going to pay him roughly 14 million over 4 years.
Also getting a “franchise” QB in Jimmy is an unknown. Texans thought Brock would be their franchise QB and look what happened. The Bears just paid Glennon 14 million a year and hope he is their franchise QB. Both Glennon and Brock had shown more then Jimmy G at the time they signed their contracts. I would rather the Browns keep their picks and draft a QB at pick 33 or throw in a 3rd rounder and move back into the 20s to draft one. At least then if the QB you draft doesnt work out you are only out of 10 mil or so. Then Jimmy G will still be a free agent in a year or two and then you can chase him.
Good post.
Garoppolo is worth at least a first and second. If you have a chance to get a franchise quarterback in the NFL, you do it every time.
That is a lot to ask but I don’t think a 1st Rounder is asking too much. If Garoppolo was in the draft, would he be taken #1, or at least in the 1st Round?
Trade Brady for the 2 1’s this year, a 2, and a 1 and 2 next year. Get Myles Garrett and go all in on Garopollo.
Honestly if that was offered Bill might have to take it. No way I see it happening realistically but if someone threw out a deal similar to the old Theo Epstein hypothetical proposals to the Mariners for Felix Hernandez, they might have to seriously think.
I don’t understand how anyone could say he’s not worth a first round pick. This is an awful draft class for quarterbacks and even if he didn’t have the experience he gained in NE he would be the #1 QB However, he does have the experience. I’m not saying he’s the second coming of Brady but he is miles ahead of trubiskey or cupcheck or whatever his name is. Clearly better than any scrubino QB in this draft
So you justify it based on what’s available this draft? And on 6 quarters of “experience”? Add that he was rated lower when he was in the draft than the guys in this year’s draft, and what do you have?
Weak. In fact, weaker than weak.
Well if they want to draft Trubisky at 12, yeah they should trade it for Garoppolo instead. Also, there is something to be said for practicing under Belichick for 3 years. That is the experience he was referring to. There are some knocks on Garoppolo, but people go about the wrong ones. Burning the 12th pick on Trubisky is a far worse move than sending it for Garoppolo and seeing what you have in him for a year with a stacked offensive line.
And who was the latest successful, ex-Patriots franchise QB?
That depends on your definition of success.
Then focus on the other word — franchise. That seems to be the word everyone is using to describe Garoppolo.
Ryan Mallet was never a “franchise” QB. Neither was Hoyer. Cassel was really the only guy who was supposed to have franchise potential, so 0-1 isn’t a fair sample size.
My point is that no QB has left NE and become a franchise QB. NONE!
What makes Garoppolo any different?
Thats not true at all, people in new england were talking about mallett being the franchise guy, at one point they were even saying he would command a 1st based on only preseason games.
And if that’s your argument, who was UNC’s last franchise QB? It’s totally invalid, but if you use it it goes both ways.
Did I even bring up Trubisky? Uh, that would be a big negatory.
Not really, because despite the fact everyone is learning under the tutelage of belichick and brady, all of their respective disciples have flopped, whether it be coaches or qbs. Kevin o’connell, mallett, hoyer, cassell. Nothing good comes out of new englands “understudy” program except teams wasting picks on their players.
Hell, i remember at one point they were even talking about mallett getting a first rounder, and he hadnt done anything except preseason play, thats how overhyped they are.
Yep, if I recall, that draft that he was in wasn’t exactly anything to write home about eitehr, QB wise or all players wise. Wasn’t that the mediocre 2014 QB draft? But we’re supposed to think because Belichick who has won with the likes of Matt Cassell and Vinny Testaverde that Garoppolo is vastly superior to this year’s QBs who have about as much experience as he does, which isn’t much.
3 years under Brady including three trips to deep in the playoffs with two Super Bowls constitutes experience in my book. At least enough for me to say he’s better than any qb in this draft
jdodge22, but none of the QBs in this draft are really worth a 1st round pick either, so that doesn’t really help your argument much.
you all are fools, Brady is going to go down with the pressure and age. How much longer can Brady last. It’s time NE even with Brady take a fall. Jimmy G dosen’t have the experience as a NFL starter in this league or hasn’t shown it so how do you give him 16-19 million a year. Look at other teams in the league who are looking for a real starting quarterback that cant find one worth the money. Let Cleveland cut Osweiler he made his money and is running laffing at all the fools you think he cares. You all are getting your panties twisted up for no reason. Let the rich fools play there games and waste their money.
3 years under brady going to sb ‘eans nothing. Cassel had 4 under brady, mallett had 3, who cares, how many years did hoyer have?
There is nothing to say Jimmy G is going to be a franchise QB. So to act like he is, is ridiculous. Not to mention in a year you will have to pay him 16-19 million a year. Which is fine if he gets traded and them comes out and shows promise. If he doesn’t you gave up a first round pick and whatever else for nothing.
However or you can draft a QB at 12 and see what he does. The difference is salary. The allowed slot payment will be roughly 14 million over 4 years. So if you miss on the QB you drafted then you can still have money to pay Jimmy when he becomes a FA. However if you trade for Jimmy and then pay him you could be in the same situation as the Texans just were with Brock Oswieler. I dont think the Browns should give up more then pick 33 and a 3rd rounder next year.
Mary Kay just needs to stop with her desperate QB fixation. Yes, we need a Quarterback. No, we don’t need to mortgage the future for a backup with 6 quarters of experience. MKC also was on record as wanting to use the 6th overall pick on Geno Smith 3 years ago. She needs to just stop.
I’m starting to think it might be time for an INTERVENTION.
It’s funny how Mary Kay Cabot keeps making stuff up, even though she never had Cleveland doing this deal in a million years. Something tells me that they have their eyes more on drafting a guy this year and letting Osweiler be the bridge QB for a year, and they got a 2nd round pick out of the deal. Sounds pretty good to me.
Thinking Jimmy G is worth 1 first round pick is ridiculous, the first pick of the 2nd is too much. What makes him different than the last 4 Brady backups that turned out awful everywhere else?
2nd pick of 2nd round and conditional later round if he does well
Why waste a these picks on garoppolo, im pretty sure if hue jackson can get something out of dalton and mccarron, im sure he can turn anyone of these qbs into potential franchise qbs without destroying their future by trading coveted picks.
Keep Garrapolo. Draft picks are very valuable commodities. I’m not convinced Garrapolo is even a starter in this league.
Give osweiler a chance
Offer #52 this year and a conditional 2018 3rd (only goes through if Garoppolo re-signs with the Browns before next free agency period opens) that could become a 2nd if he re-signs and meets certain playing time and stat conditions. Patriots say no? Enjoy him on your bench and Browns roll with Osweiler or sign Nick Foles for this season and use these picks to move up next draft for Darnold, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, Luke Falk, etc. Whoever they decide is the best option.
Or offer #52 straight up for McCarron