While the Patriots are reportedly unlikely to trade quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, they haven’t ruled out moving him if the right offer comes along, a league source told Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com. New England is likely to want at least a first-rounder for Garoppolo, writes Cabot, who hears that the team has already received one preliminary “offer.” However, a deal is unlikely to come together during the combine.
The Browns, 49ers and Bears, who are set to pick first, second and third in this year’s draft, have drawn the most connections to Garoppolo this winter. Cleveland has seemingly shown more interest than anyone else in Garoppolo, and it could help the club’s cause that it has a second first-rounder (No. 12 overall) that it could dangle to land the 25-year-old.
Should they fail to reel in Garoppolo, the Browns could look for a signal-caller via free agency, elsewhere on the trade market, or in the draft. Cabot reported earlier Thursday that they’re eyeing North Carolina’s Mitch Trubisky at No. 1 overall, and she now adds that the Browns could inquire about Bengals backup A.J. McCarron.
Although the Bengals aren’t necessarily aiming to trade McCarron, they might do it if they receive at least a second-rounder, and they wouldn’t be averse to sending him to a division rival, a source told Cabot. Moreover, McCarron “would love” to reunite with Browns head coach Hue Jackson, Cabot notes. McCarron played under Jackson when he was the Bengals’ offensive coordinator from 2014-15.
Deal will likely get done at the draft when a team in need of QB help in the 1st round either 1. No QBs without reaching 2. Don’t like available QBs and would rather have Jimmy G
He is not worth what New England’s asking for him. A 1st and 3rd round pick for a guy who hasn’t played is nonsensical.
He played 6 quarters and looked better than 80% of all QBs. If they don’t get the same deal as Bradford, it is a failure on NEs part.
Six quarters as a back-up doesn’t get you that kind of return. If he was actually worth what they’re asking, they wouldn’t be trying to trade him.
And let’s be honest, Boston area sports teams always overvalue their players. Cleveland would be smart to stay far away from a trade with the Bill Belichick.
Then Cleveland should waste the number one overall pick on yet another unproven quarterback. They’ve had such amazing success in the last 10 years with QB’s. Maybe they’ll get lucky and he’ll only kinda suck like Wentz and not totally suck like Geoff.
Cleveland should draft the best player available with the #1 pick. They have enough picks to get a QB later on. Giving those picks to N.E. will be a monumental mistake.
As for your comments about Wentz and Geoff, that’s typical from a meatball internet sports fan. Drafting Wentz was a game changer for Philly. A rookie QB with an offense that lacks talent at WR an OL is not supposed to do the things he was able to do. He’s a genuine franchise QB. Geoff hardly played for a bad team last year, so I don’t know how you’re rating him with no sample size. Typical meatball, probably from Boston. You guys always overvalue your players and undervalue everyone else in trade talk.
Wentz actually played well to start, the team went 5-0 to start if i remember correctly. Then the league got tape on him and showed him looks he hadnt seen before. Kinda like the same thing they will do to garoppolo wherever he goes. Six quarters of football is only six quarters, no matter how bad or good it was.
NE isn’t actively shopping him, genius. Supply and demand. Good QBs aren’t easily found and I’d still rather roll the dice with Jimmy G. than a 1st and 3rd rd pick. Sample size is small but he lit it UP. Or are you still on the N. Cutler bandwagon?
Nothing more fickle than someone from Chicago.
Sure, they’re not shopping him. Teams are better off “rolling the dice” when he becomes a free agent instead of giving N.E. more draft picks for him. And considering the history of sports in Chicago, sports fans here are anything but fickle. Get a clue.
Typical homer response. Matt Flynn should be a good reminder that limited time as a starter doesn’t make you worth millions because you looked good in 6 quarters
Comparing Matt Flynn to Jimmy G. Is just silly. Matt Flynn was a 7th Rd pick. Jimmy G. was a 2nd. Some teams had him as a 1st. Obviously nobody knows how he’s gonna pan out but the Flynn comparison is just an uneducated one.
Comparing a 7th round pick in Flynn to a 2nd in Jimmy G. Is just uneducated and wrong. Some had Garoppolo as a first rounder. I don’t pretend to know how good he’ll be as a starter. But Flynn? Come on.
OK, how about comparing a 2nd round pick in Jimmy G to a 3rd round pick in Ryan Mallett?
How is it uneducated and wrong? As though a 7th rounder couldnt have studied and become a better qb while watching aaron rodgers for 4 years. Wasnt brady a 6th rounder who watched bledsoe for a year, id say 4 years of watching rodgers is better than a year of bledsoe. Youre grasping a straws dude.
Gronk your either ignorant or just a plain homer… or better yet both. My comparison with Flynn has nothing to do with what round he was drafted. It has everything to do with the uproar he caused by having a few good quarters. Now you want to trade your backup QB based on the value he had when he was drafted and 6 quarters as a starter. The value is in what he’s done on the field not where he was drafted a few years ago. Get a clue
What? Bradford was picked 1 overall. Jimmy picked 64. He’s played 6 quarters and got hurt. Nothing more than a 2D
If he played 6 quarters and looked better than 80% of all qbs, then maybe its a system thing, not brady? Matt flynn threw 9tds in 2 starts, would he have been worth the same as jimmy g? Matt cassel hadnt started a game since high school, became the starter and went 10-5, how did he do once he was traded, he emulated brady’s so called legacy, am i right? He didnt? My mistake.
Matt Cassell went to a team that had won 2 games and let their only good offensive weapon, Tony Gonzalez go that year. He struggled and got them to 4 wins and then made the playoffs the next year with 27 Tds to like 14 picks. He then had a different OC then next 4 years and was never good again.
Then why are we to believe garoppolo is worth so much when cassel never really amounted to much and he had a larger sample size.
That logic makes no sense considering everyone is fine with them spending a first overall pick on a college guy who has also never played.
“Everyone is fine with them spending a first overall pick on a college guy who has also never played”. Wrong. Let the Browns take one of these QBs with the 1st overall pick and watch them get torn apart in sports media and on social media by fans. No way that anyone is fine with them spending the first overall pick on ANY QB this year.
Even those idiots who are advocating trading 1st round picks for QBs or drafting QBs #1 overall like Mary Kay Cabot and that guy McMarshmallow-brain (or whatever his name is) over at ESPN are only doing so that if the Browns do follow their advice, they can then start whining and complaining about overpaying or reaching for a QB.
It shouldn’t but teams that are desperately in need of a QB that has NFL experience are known to overpay a little to get the guy they want. That’s why the Pats are asking for that much. It is also because he is young and has a good contract
Overpay a little, yes. Not overpay in giving up a 1st round pick and more for a backup. He doesn’t really have a good contract, since he will be a free agent at the end of next season and will probably be expecting a contract of 5-6 years or more at 12-15 per year. Not all that great.
Damn you draft defense stud at number one and to pay your 12th pick for a risk in a QB that has Tom Brady training attached to him since college is less riskier than drafting Trubinsky first. He certainly won’t be there at number 12th pick, so I see it as win win to trade latter pick and end up with recent return on offense and defense.
I’m no GM but I did stay at a holiday Inn express and I regularly play franchise mode in Maddens.
If, and I stress “IF” (because it’s not what I would do at all), the Browns go that route and decide that trading their second 1st round pick for Garoppolo is the move they want to make, then it needs to be one of two things: 1) #12 ONLY for Garoppolo or 2) trade down from #12 into the 16-22 range, then offer that pick and a conditional 5th in 2018 for Garoppolo. Again, I wouldn’t offer a 1st round pick for him, but if they go this route, option 2 is the way I would go. Acquire additional picks and then ship one off for Garoppolo
Yea agree and like that.
And forget about Bungles QB
They should trade for a batch of sperm from Brady, Big Ben or Drew Brees and in eighteen years they draft him.
Or they could just find any woman and have her come into the sight of Big Ben. Same outcome.
“outcome”. No pun intended?
Come on, you know that was intended!
The Roethlis-Burger. The sandwich isn’t ready until the meat’s been forced in
I’d trade for McCarron over Jimmy G, won’t hurt as much if he fails.
McCarron has done more than jimmy. Teamed up with Hue would be a beautiful thing.
Do you think the Browns second 2nd round pick would be enough for McCarron?
I think that’s probably what it would take to get the deal done. It’s over paying but for a QB hungry team like the Browns it a fair deal. That way they could use their first 3 picks on starting caliber defensive players.
Another issue I see with trading for Garoppolo vs trading for McCarron is if the trade doesn’t happen until the draft, any team trying to trade for Garoppolo will have the added risk of him not re-signing when he is a free agent at the end of next season. A trade made during the draft would give that team no time at all to work out a long-term contract with him before having to say yes to a trade. No way would I give up high picks for someone you don’t even know if you will be able to sign after next season. At least with McCarron, he’s a restricted free agent after next season, so the team trading for him has him for at least 2 years.
A senerio like this might play out well for both Browns and Pats. The Browns could offer the #12, a midround pick (4th-5th rounder) this year and another conditional mid round pick next year for Garoppolo and #32. I almost like that better than giving up #33 and a 2-3rd round pick next year. PFF rates pick #33 as a draft trade equivalent on Jimmy G. The Browns will have to overpay but I don’t think by a lot and the Patriots want multiple picks (They could even trade down with the 12 and pick up even more picks). Imagine drafting Garrett, getting Jimmy G and having picks at #32 and #33. The Browns would be a completely different team next year and the Pats would have more picks to reload on talent. This would make the Wentz trade last year look like an amazing deal for the Browns.
I see the Pats flipping 12 for Brandon Cooks if they get it.
“Cleveland has seemingly shown more interest than anyone else in Garoppolo,” This “interest” is according to local sports writer Mary Kay Cabot. She’s been writing about this supposed interest for months without citing a single source from within the Browns, need to remember she and Bill go back to when he coached the Browns.
“As beat reporter Jeff Howe writes, “For a team that allegedly isn’t going to trade (Garoppolo), the Patriots surely aren’t acting like it.” If New England deals Garoppolo and signs a veteran like Josh McCown, that veteran would compete with Jacoby Brissett to back up Tom Brady. Howe acknowledges the price to acquire Garoppolo remains high. “One working theory is the Patriots want at least a first- and second-round draft pick in return for Garoppolo, but it’s unclear if that’s even enough,” Howe wrote.”
If that last line is accurate, PASS.
I wonder if some teams further back in the draft are inquiring on him. For example, Cleveland could just offer 12, but if someone in the late 20’s wants him, I could see it costing another 2nd. I haven’t looked at the draft order, so I don’t know if anyone back there is looking at a QB, but that’s what I’d assume.
I’ve heard about the following teams other than Cleveland, Chicago, San Francisco and the Jets being interested (true or not, who knows, just heard the rumors): New Orleans (pick #11), Washington (if they trade Cousins) (pick #17), Houston (pick #25) and Kansas City (if they release Alex Smith) (pick #27).