The Giants figure to have a new GM in 2022, but they’re likely to keep their head coach. Co-owner John Mara still plans to retain Joe Judge for next year, according to sources who spoke with SNY’s Ralph Vacchiano. 
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“A few weeks ago I would’ve told you no chance he gets fired,” said one source. “Now? Even after (the Giants’ 37-21 loss to the Chargers on Sunday), I’d probably still say ‘No chance.’ (Mara) loves Judge. He thinks he’s found his (Bill) Belichick or (Bill) Parcells. And there’s just no way he gives up on another coach this soon.”
As Vacchiano notes, co-owner Steve Tisch will also have final word on the matter, but this jibes with what we’ve been hearing in recent weeks. Despite his 10-20 record since taking over as head coach, the Giants plan to stay patient with Judge — something they didn’t do with predecessors Ben McAdoo and Pat Shurmur. Judge, for his part, says he’s on board with that plan.
“I’ve said this from the beginning: I’m not interested in having some kind of quick flash,” Judge said. “I’m not interested in shortcuts. I’m not interested in quick fixes. I want to do this the right way. When I took this job I made it very, very clear that I was only going to do this if we’re all committed to doing this the right way. And that’s something that’s been very clear from ownership on down.”
The Giants, down to 4-10 on the year, will wrap their season with games against the Eagles, Bears, and the Washington Football Team.
I also read that they’ll retain the QB as well. How attractive of a GM job is that?
The team is bad but New York is still the big apple so attracting candidates for the GM job will not be a problem. Gettleman didn’t exactly raise the bar in any way that would concern those trying to replace him.
Abrams will be promoted to GM so it doesn’t have to be attractive. Just more of the same.
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Thanks Giants … from another Eagles fan!!
Big mistake. Let new GM pick his coach. Hope this doesn’t mean Abrams gets the job. This franchise is terrible, dump qb, and rb.
Joe Judge is waaaaaay too hard on his players. I can’t imagine the locker room being cool about Judge if they keep losing.
Should eagles fans be bragging about anything though?
Ehhh. I know everybody loves complaining about the Giants, so firing two of the main targets of their ridicule would leave them a bit lost.
In all honesty, the team is bad, but it’s not as bad as people claim. Jones isn’t great, but he also doesn’t have any remote semblance of protection at all and still has yet to work with a decent offensive coach in his career. I don’t think that he’ll suddenly morph into Peyton Manning, but he certainly could have some help. The Giants have a few decent skill position players, but they’re always hurt and there’s no true long term number one at WR or TE. The defense has holes at various positions, but has spots of talent at others. That offensive line speaks for itself. It’s the biggest problem.
Judge is a coach who will lean heavily on his assistants. He just needs to. I’m not going to speculate on whether he’s a plus or a minus definitively as far as running the team goes, but it is certainly possible that with reliable coordinators establishing an offensive and defensive identity that he could try to emulate Harbaugh in Baltimore or Tomlin in Pittsburgh as more of a guiding presence than a strategic one. If he wants to succeed, I just think that will be necessary.
Overall, I think that the team has one more chance to salvage Judge and Jones. Really, they don’t have much of a choice, at least as far as Jones goes. That would be just one hole too many to try and fix without more losing. The only upside to this situation is that most of the holes are obvious and could conceivably be fixed with a good draft this offseason. The bad news, obviously, is that we have no idea who will be doing that. The Giants are in a bad spot, but they’re not the Jags or the Texans-there’s at least a chance that things could start to look positive next year, if they fill a few obvious holes this offseason.if not, well…I think most people have it covered.
Disagree….the Giants are a bad team….and they are what they’re record says they are which is barely competitive.
Judge, well the buck stop there right…..terrible in time management and he picked his coaching assistants so either he’s a terrible judge of coaching talent, or they are letting him and the players down week after week……
Jones, well I do agree that unless they can pull off some type of trade for a vet., given that this is a down year for QB’s, 2022 isn’t the year to draft a QB….better to wait until next year.
Mara needs to clean house….starting with bringing in an outside GM. And please not Abrams who will just continue to do things the Giants way which would doom them to continued mediocrity. An outside GM would need to ascertain exactly what players to keep and which to discard, as well as the decision makers on the talent side to begin to build through the draft.
Judge may survive the purge but generally new GM’s like to start with their coach not the old guys guy!
I do agree that they are bad, don’t get me wrong. I’m sorry if that was misunderstood. What I am saying is that they are not as bad as the worst in the league, which is to say that they have no identifiable future. Bad, but not the worst. I do think major changes are necessary, but without a guarantee of success, those changes will likely be just as unsuccessful.
I get the urge to clean house, but where do you go? The Giants cleaning house years ago is what got them here, now. It does not guarantee anything without the moves being right. If there’s someone in particular they believe in, that would be great, but who is that? Cleaning house for the sake of cleaning house can only go so far. I don’t really believe in Joe Judge, but I don’t necessarily disbelieve either. I could see him being successful with the right people or unsuccessful with the wrong ones. He’s not the guy who’s going to bring success through his own personal brilliance. The Maras and Tisch want him for his professionalism. That may not be what they’re actually getting, but that’s what they want. Fine. But they need to find someone to handle the Xs and Os and someone else to bring in some better players to fill those obvious holes.
I don’t think that this is the BEST direction for NYG. But I don’t think that the situation is unsalvageable with the right moves. The question remains for me (as a NFL fan, though not a NYG fan specifically) as to how much faith I have that those moves will be made. I don’t have an extreme amount. But this all hinges on who the Giants pick as their next GM. After that decision happens, maybe it will be easier to tell. Maybe not. But at the end of the day, the Giants DO have more to work with right now talent-wise than the Texans or Jags or Jets. It will be some hard work, but it’s possible.
I’d actually argue the Jags are in a better position moving forward because they have a QB already. The difference in results this season was Judge looks like Lombardi compared to Meyer.
I think you clean house because the most important hire they’ll make is the GM, and that GM should hire his own coach. Judge isn’t a coach you work backwards off of in the hiring process.
Fair enough. I just think that there is still a way for New York. That chance is small, but since this is the decision that has been made, this is the one they’ll have to work with. There’s not much left in the way of chances, though. Judge being forced to work with Garrett really didn’t help, I will say. He and Jones do deserve some chance with a decent coordinator if he’s being tapped to remain as coach.
Urban Meyer looking for a new challenge. Bar scene in NYC probably better.
It’s hard to judge Judge (sorry) or DJ (or Saquon for that matter) considering that offensive line and lack of imaginative play calling (one of course dictates the other). Defense? As somebody noted, decent in some areas, absolutely horrible in others.
They’re just a dull, dull team. The only way to reinvigorate the franchise is a complete enema and tear-down. It may or may not be justifiable, but in the real world sometimes you make a change just to make a change.
Dump the GM (and no, don’t replace him with his assistant), Judge, DJ, Saquon and anybody else you can. With two top 10 draft choices, the rebuild can start there.
They should fire Judge and completely shift the direction of the franchise. This really shows the problem rests with ownership, though. What is the fascination with these “tough guy” coaches? The game has changed and you cannot play defense the way they did in the 80s anymore- and LT isn’t walking through the locker room door.
First, consider the source: Adam Schefter lets NFL club owners vet his stories, a practice that’s considered unethical in journalism circles.
This was planted by the Giants’ front office prior to yesterday’s humiliation in Philly. Bring Judge back based on his first 2 seasons and the Giants are likely to face a fan revolt that hasn’t been seen since “The Fumble” in 1978. No amount of Pepsi can make such a brain-dead move taste any better.