John Harbaugh‘s lengthy Ravens tenure is coming to an end. The Super Bowl-winning head coach has been fired, as first reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter. The news is now official, per a team announcement.
NFL insider Jordan Schultz describes this as a mutual parting of ways, although in the wake of Week 18 Harbaugh expressed a desire to continue in his current role. That will no longer be the case. The remainder of the coaching staff is currently being informed of the news, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network adds.
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Harbaugh believed he would be safe as of earlier today, Pelissero’s colleague Ian Rapoport notes (video link). A lengthy conversation with owner Steve Bisciotti resulted in today’s decision being made, Schultz adds. It appears a split existed between the two on the matter of coaching staff makeup.
Harbaugh refused to entertain the thought of dismissing offensive coordinator Todd Monken, according to Dianna Russini of The Athletic. That proved to be a “key pressure point” leading to this unexpected news. Monken had overseen back-to-back Lamar Jackson first-team All-Pro seasons, but a rumor about the Ravens being ready to consider coordinator changes emerged shortly after the 26-24 loss to the Steelers. The Browns have requested an HC interview with Monken.
“Following a comprehensive evaluation of the season and the overall direction of our organization, I decided to make a change at head coach,” Bisciotti said. “Today I informed John that he has been relieved of his duties. This was an incredibly difficult decision, given the tremendous 18 years we have spent together and the profound respect I have for John as a coach and, most importantly, as a great man of integrity.”
Leading up to the regular-season finale, many suggested a firing would come as a surprise. In the aftermath of Baltimore’s last-second loss on Sunday night, though, it remained unclear whether or not the 18-year partnership between team and coach would continue. Harbaugh had three years remaining on his contract thanks to the extension he signed last March. Now, the Ravens will conduct a head coaching search for the first time since 2008.
Especially in the early portion of his Baltimore tenure, Harbaugh enjoyed a strong run of success. Baltimore won at least one playoff game during each of his first five years in charge. That span was highlighted by victory in Super Bowl XLVII against a 49ers team lead by his brother Jim. Harbaugh and quarterback Joe Flacco (whose career began in 2008) quickly developed a reputation for playoff success. This culminated in a dominant postseason run that included road wins over the No. 1-seeded Broncos and No. 2-slotted Patriots, leading to that dramatic win in the Harbaugh Bowl.
Consistent turnover at the offensive coordinator spot in particular proved to be a common theme through much of the Harbaugh-Flacco era, and over time the postseason runs led by them became less frequent. Still, Harbaugh’s eight road wins in the playoffs remain an all-time NFL record (h/t Schefter). The 2025 campaign represents only his third in which the Ravens finished with a losing record.
As Flacco aged, his regular-season showings began to wane and questions were raised about a potential succession plan. In 2018, Baltimore traded back into the first round to select Jackson. A Flacco back injury opened the door for Jackson to take on starting duties as a rookie midway though the campaign, and a strong finish to the season avoided what would have been a fourth straight year outside of the playoffs at the time. Before the Ravens had clinched a spot, though, Harbaugh had already received a new commitment from Bisciotti.
Overseeing the Ravens’ transition to a far different offense with Jackson, things went well early on. Jackson unanimously won the MVP award in 2019, with Harbaugh taking home Coach of the Year honors. Baltimore was the AFC’s No. 1 seed that year and faced high expectations as a result. An upset loss to the Titans proved to be one of many shortcomings in January that Baltimore has encountered since then, however.
During Jackson’s eight-year career, the Ravens have reached the playoffs six times. Injuries (including in 2025) have played a factor in the instances where that was not the case, but all told Baltimore has reached just one AFC title game in that span. The Ravens lost to the Chiefs as the No. 1 seed. Breaking through in the AFC playoff picture will be a goal early and often for Harbaugh’s successor, someone who will inherit a roster led by Jackson and several other highly-regarded players on both sides of the ball.
Harbaugh, meanwhile, will instantly be seen as a top candidate in the 2026 pool presuming he decides to coach next season. The 63-year-old was mentioned early today as someone on the radar of HC-needy teams like the Falcons and Giants. Interest is expected to be widespread around the league.
Overall, Harbaugh’s Baltimore tenure ends with 12 playoff appearances (including six division titles). His regular-season win percentage sits at .614 and his resume includes a 13-11 record in the postseason. Harbaugh signed six extensions as Ravens HC, including one that made him one of the NFL’s highest-paid HCs earlier this year. A former special teams assistant during Andy Reid‘s Eagles stint, Harbaugh now faces an uncertain future for the first time in nearly two decades.
GIANTS
Bring in Mitchell to run with Skattebo and bring in nasty, run-blocking linemen.
Falcons
Was that really the correct call?
Nope but I don’t watch a lot of Ravens games
Only if you can find someone better
Yes. A lot of Raven fans have been calling for this at least five years if not more. I used to balk at it until I started digging into it more. Even the 2012 championship was an indictment on him because there was a mutiny on that team where the vets tuned him out. He’s a very good coach, but it should have probably been done after they lost in the first round in 2019.
You don’t sound like you’re very familiar with the Ravens
True
Why do I need to be familiar with the Ravens to recount what has been said about that 2012 team? Not to mention, this is something I heard firsthand from Q. Boldin, not from secondhand sources.
You said his Championship was an indictment. You lost me there.
Just saying I was told that the vets tuned him out that year. Do you remember all the mess that went on with that team from Cam Cameron getting fired near the end of the year and Ray Lewis and Ed Reed having issues with him? People forget it all because they won the Super Bowl. He was on the verge of losing his job after that year.
Wow, that’s crazy but a change for both coach and team is probably in order, he won’t be unemployed long
Yep, it’s an Andy Reid situation. He’ll go on and be better for it, and if they hire the right person, they might get over the hump for the tail end of Jackson’s career. A change was needed though.
Jackson is talented but wont get it done. I hope I am wrong.
I don’t agree. If I’m picking between my talented but oft injured quarterback who has yet to make it to an AFC Championship, and my Super Bowl winning coach who has by far the best record in team history, I’m picking the coach.
There isn’t going to be a coach that both gets more out of Jackson and preserves his career for another five years. Harbaugh went far out of his way to rebuild the offense completely around Jackson, a player that a lot of teams questioned in regards to his ability to even play quarterback.
If the Ravens are moving on from Harbaugh, they should consider moving on from Jackson. It’s deeply hard to imagine a coach who can take advantage of Lamar’s skill-set, while also having the command enough of the team to be in charge of him at the same time. Jackson hasn’t (and likely won’t) ever be a bad locker room presence in his career, but asking a new head coach to come in and command a two time MVP is a task that only certain people can do-especially if the new coach brings a new offense.
He did finally make it to an AFC championship game against KC but they didnt score a TD till late in the game. Flowers messed up at the end.
Ah yes, I forgot about that game, big messup. My mistake.
That Championship game against KC spoke volumes. Ravens weren’t ready to play. They were sloppy and made mistakes. That comes from the coaching staff. Here’s a good example, San Fran had a banged up D and they played their asses off against offensive juggernaut Seattle last weekend. That’s coaching.
As far as Lamar is concerned, he’s 100x better than when he first came into the league, but he still doesn’t have the will and determination to win a championship. It just isn’t there and probably never will be.
To build on what you’re saying, Ak185, which candidate out there would be an improvement on Harbaugh? I don’t think any of the well-known names are an improvement so they’d have to roll the dice on an up-and-comer.
Yeah, the closest thing that any one of them could possibly come to him resume-wise is Mike McCarthy. The Ravens hiring him would mean a rebuild, and there’s never any guarantee of that working. After him, there’s a steep drop off. Stefanski might be next, due to his coach of year awards. I don’t really consider Carroll here in 2025. After that…Morris? Daboll? It’s not very close.
Of course, hiring any coach might mean a rebuild. These Ravens aren’t a wide-eyed group of youths looking for guidance in the big pros. They’ve won games, awards, and even playoff games. If Bischiotti thinks that he can grab a new coach AND not rebuild the team, that’ll be a tall task. Finding any coach who could actually command a group of high achieving veterans immediately is hard enough, let alone a rookie coach. Sure, you might get some fresh concepts (basically a coordinator’s job anyway, in my mind), but how long does that last until you decide that your players are actually the ones who are stale?
So, yeah, if Bischiotti thinks that he can avoid a rebuild with unique offense that is completely beholden to the coach he just fired, he’s going to be pained upon seeing it play out next year. He may not think that, though, and may actually want the rebuild. If he does, then he should hope that his new coach can establish a foundation as well as Harbaugh did.
AK1— Where do you get this notion that a new coach coming in would have a hard time managing Lamar and the other veterans? It’s just the opposite, guys who have been around the block and understand their role and what they can contribute will allow things to run more smoothly for the new coach. It’s called working together proactively and with maturity.
Maybe so, but only if that coach knows what he’s talking about. That cooperation only happens with a buy-in, and I wouldn’t assume that’s guaranteed. Sure, it’s advantageous in situations as you’ve described, but it’s also happened the opposite way. We’ll see, I may be wrong, as you’ve said.
It’s a good thing you’re not running an organization then. Before he got Jackson, Harbaugh had missed the playoffs four of five years. Truth is, the reason he made it to year 18 is Jackson. Even Bisciotti admitted he almost fired him in 2018 before deciding to bring him back after Jackson’s rookie year. It ran its course. You can see that he lost the locker room with that loyalty to the DC who is terrible. He shold have fired him after the rough start last year, and maybe we wouldn’t be here right now. But aside from that, he has his own issues from his teams being front runners (46-51 record in games decided by five points or less) 18 fourth quarter blown leads, 28 double digit blown leads since he was hired. This precedes Jackson arriving there, so who you blaming for that. He needs to examine those failures and fix them before he takes his next job so he doesn’t end up like Pete Carroll in his next stop.
I kind of think Harbaugh falling asleep on the usage of Derrick Henry this season cost them a number of wins. Harbaugh certainly had assistants as much to blame. How do you explain a virtually unstoppable train of a running back tearing up opponents then sitting on the bench while games are on the line? Very strange usage, to be sure
The fumbles certainly came into play with Henry, but the issue is deepper than just not using him to run late in games. Harbaugh just doesn’t seem to know how to coach end of game situations. He’s not alone in that as an HC. Kyle Shanahan is similar in that his teams don’t come back from deficits in fourth quarters. It just seems to be his Achilles as a coach. If a game gets tight, his team is going to fold. It was mitigated by the team’s personnel and having good assistants, but at the end of the day, they say your team takes on your HC’s personality. I mean even look at that Super Bowl win. After the blackout, the 49ers were a catch away from completing a historic comeback. He needs to examine why that is.
As a Steelers fan, I’ll never understand how the Ravens sank this year and of course, defensive lapses have a great deal to do with it. As I said above though, how is it obvious to anyone watching their games that you have the solution sitting over on your bench and it’s not obvious to coaches. Maybe if Henry was the vocal type, things may have been different
But since he isn’t that way, it seems the entire coaching staff forgot about him numerous times. One time, I understand. But numerous?
Hard to believe the Ravens didn’t win the north, let alone miss the playoffs
While Jackson is obviously essential to Baltimore’s success, and has been since 2018, you should remember that this is a team that is literally built around this particular quarterback. No other QB can run that offense. That is because Harbaugh hired Greg Roman to specifically pin the offense around Jackson. Do you think that he would have had nearly as much success, let alone lasted so long as a starter, on any other team? One season of not using Derrick Henry enough is hardly grounds for tossing Harbaugh’s contributions out the door. And while the close game certainly could be better, how much of that came with Jackson at the helm? Seems pretty odd to hold Harbaugh responsible ALONE for those losses, and not any of the players. The record actually isn’t terrible, while it should be better. Ironically, one of the coaches who has a significantly better record in that regard is…Mike Tomlin. He has a record somewhere in the area of 105-79 or something in close games, playing in 30+ more despite on only having been on a year longer than Harbaugh. Is that an indicator that Tomlin is better for having won them, or that Harbaugh is better for not having them?
I think that you’re throwing this statistic out there without enough context to make it useful. How does that record compare to bad teams? To good ones? Something like 51% of NFL games are one score affairs. How of those do the Chiefs win? The Browns? Or the Bills-a comparable team to Baltimore, as contenders who have yet to punch the ticket (and are carried by their run game and quarterback)? I don’t think that there are many who could exceed it-even Reid and Payton had down years that surely would contribute, Shanahan has had losing seasons, and McVay and LeFleur might exceed those numbers in a shorter span. McDermott probably is comparable. I think that you’ll find that, while Harbaugh’s record should be better, it will stack up comparably to all but the top three or five coaches who have been in place for at least five years.
Harbaugh didn’t get fired for not being able to win, he got fired for not moving on from his coordinators. To be fair to your point, this is one of the biggest parts of his job. Harbaugh’s not an X and O coach on offense or defense. He lost the locker room by not changing out the guys who were for someone better. Monken may have had some hope staying on, given his past success, but Orr has floundered. Pees’ coming back to consult last year seemed to have a positive effect temporarily, but if you’re doing that, you probably have a larger issue and he needs to go. I will give you that, and it’s the same criticism that most people have of Tomlin. But that’s what happens with long time coaches-eventually, they get back to the mean, people get tired of them, and they get fired for fatigue more than lack of ability.
So, yes, I’m not here to say that Harbaugh is infallible, or that he hasn’t made critical mistakes in years past. I’m not saying that the Ravens will never recover. What I am saying is that there is a very, very high chance that whomever comes next will be worse, not better. Harbaugh managed to keep the team mostly competitive for his nearly his entire tenure. He’s the reason that Jackson is a quarterback in 2025, and not a free agent HB or whatever else he was supposed to be. He led Joe Flacco and the league’s best defense to playoff success and a championship. It’s not something that gets superseded by a dip in one score games. Don’t get me wrong, the conversation is fair, as are your points in the negative, and I respect them. The reason that I’m arguing against them, though, is that I don’t think that you’ll find a better coach for that roster (even if the roster thinks so). Hiring a new DC (again, partially Harbaugh’s fault for sticking with Orr) would improve the team more than anything else. Whomever succeeds him will need to be better, and more able to exceed not only what he’s done, but what he can offer in the future. Jackson has already missed a ton of games and is almost 30-if Baltimore fired Harbaugh for his sake, the turnaround will need be quick, too.
Giants better get him in the facility tomorrow and not let him leave
I don’t think he’s interested in that. The one tidbit that recently came up was that they were contemplating trading for him. If he was interested, some dialogue would have taken place because the coach has to agree to it.
The Giants offer the best situation of teams that need a new HC. The rest have questionable QB positions or bad ownership concerns.
They have a lousy GM.. A media viper pit.. And an absurdly impatient fanbase.. What’s not to love?
That “media viper pit” is a bunch of brown-nosing fanboys. Not only that, WFAN has lost so much revenue that it can no longer afford to run score updates.
The Giants have a bad ownership situation themselves these days, lol. Also, jury is still out on Dart. He needs to stay healthy for one. Guy has gotten checked for a concussion every other game. Another underrated part is Harbaugh’s contentious relationship with the media. You and I both know that’s not going to fly in New York with how antagonistic he was with the Baltimore media.
Giants fan base has record collective chubby
If it lasts for 4+ hours, see your physician.
…unless the physician is a Jets fan.
I’d take him or Clint
Saleh would be an intriguing option. Maybe they get back at Seattle and get Kubiak?
You do not want Saleh as a head coach
To be fair, no one can coach the Jets. He was destined to fail.
To be fair, he had Aaron Rodgers as his QB and got fired 5 games in. They were some of the worst prepared Jet teams I have ever watched. He was destined to fail because he’s one of those guys that’s a great coordinator, tried his hand as a HC and went 20-36. The Ravens hiring a guy like that would leave me scratching my head.
20-36 with the jets doesn’t dissuade me.
Saleh getting this job would be such a downgrade it’s not even funny. Like i legitimately as a Jet fan who watched every game of his tenure, would feel bad for the Ravens. His teams were beyond undisciplined and so ill prepared for games which is very opposite of what you got with Harbaugh leading the way….but sure, by all means, you can have him and see what life is like as an NFL bottom feeder after so many years at the top
No, but not learning clock management in 36 games should.
Saleh was Jets head coach 3 full seasons plus 5 games into a 4th.
And somehow the Jets got worse with Aaron Glenn. Worse record and first team ever to never record an interception all year. I think he’ll do better the next time. First time coaches should never go to NY.
The jets got worse with Aaron Glenn because they didn’t have a QB, then traded two pro bowl players from
Their defense midseason. This guy had a future Hall of Fame QB who can obviously still play and couldn’t win. A guy that’s 20-36 to replace a guy that was 180-113 with 13 playoff wins and a Super Bowl just seems absurd
You mean an Aaron Rodgers’s on the rebound from an Achilles tear? Let’s not act like he had a HoF’er in his prime
That team wasn’t doing anything even if he didn’t get hurt. Same reason he got hurt, the terrible offensive line, was the same reason they were going nowhere.
Let’s not act like he had the jets qb situation this year. They had talent last year. If you don’t know that you’re not paying attention. All I can tell you is go read that article from The Athletic about the end of his time there. You’ll come away thinking with a little different perspective that “oh the problem is the jets, not him”
A lot of the Jets’ woes this season were on the defense.
BTW, Sauce Gardner missed most of the Colts’ collapse through injury.
Doing as well as a 20-36 record with the Jets is actually impressive
Alot of teams will disagree with that
I don’t think they’re hiring a retread. It’ll either be a proven guy or someone getting their first shot, and the most proven guy just walked out the door.
He claims he’s done with the NFL, but isn’t the “most proven guy” Belichick?
Nobody wants a loser or a cheater.
A change needed to be made. Most teams would be afraid to fire a coach like Harbaugh, who obviously isn’t BAD, bit clearly wasn’t working with this iteration of the team.
Robert Saleh step on down
A lot of people here are saying “Giants”, but we don’t know if he still wants to coach. Maybe he wants to take some time off. However, if he chooses not to, watch for Tom Brady and the Raiders. I’m sure he’ll do whatever to get him.
Why would he go to that mess? He just watched a Hall of Fame coach get his rep torched trying to turn around that dysfunction. Imo, Atlanta is the opening if he was going to take one this year, but I don’t think he is going to take one. Like he could wait a year and get the younger Daniels and not even have to move far if Dan Quinn follows up this season with an even worse one.
Were they really going to turn that around with Geno? Geno looked so bad. And all the young offensive players regressed or didn’t progress as they should
If Green Bay loses their playoff game and fire Matt Lafleur , could Harbaugh be a candidate there?
I’m thinking if Buffalo goes down this weekend, Harbaugh could be the next HC of the Bills. As far as GB goes, they lose they will say if we only had not lost Parsons we would of beat the Bears.
Stefanski to the Giants…Harbaugh should go to Atlanta
Id love Harbaugh in Atlanta
I think Atlanta is the best spot for Harbaugh and just the kind of coach that Blank wants. I’m sure he will pony up for him
Giants don’t want Stefanski after his Browns behaved like yobs in the season finale at Cincy.
What did the Browns do in Cincy that was objectionable?
Devin Bush grabbed his crotch while doing a backflip into the end zone at the end of a pick-6.
Sam Webb grabbed his crotch while doing a backflip into the end zone on a fumble recovery TD.
Both acts were deservedly flagged as taunting.
Sounds like Stefanski had his guys in Beast Mode for a meaningless finale.
I think this season has proven that Lamar has been carrying this Ravens team
Really bad take.
Really correct take. Defense stinks. Their special teams this year stunk too.
Discounting Derrick Henry’s 1500+ rushing yards is pretty insane.
Who discounted it? But there are three phases to a team, and two of them outright stunk this year.
Ozzie Newsome was the glue
I don’t think John is coaching next season. Maybe he takes a year off and ponders.
This is what he should do. He nees to recharge his batteries and rethink some of his philosophies that have gotten stale.
The amount of money that is going to be thrown at him might change his mind.
Steelers would’ve fired Tomlin if he lost so it was a game where the winner kept the job.
No, they wouldn’t have. It’s apples and oranges. One guy has kept winning despite his franchise QB sunsetting and then having to make due with whatever he has at that position every year and just won the division with Jackson and Burrow in it. The other is in the window for his franchise QB and has underachieved.
There’s been talk about him being on the hot seat since big Ben retired and he’s earned keeping the job by winning with sub par qbs since then. If they missed the playoffs this year then discussions would’ve been had at least, but they didn’t so his job is completely safe now.
As a Pittsburgher, that’s laughable.
The Rooneys love longevity and have backed Tomlin throughout. He might have moved on by his own accord—may still do so— but he’s an institution here and Sunday night likely killed any thoughts
Count me as someone who likes Tomlin personally, but likely should move on to greener pastures.
From dummy fans. Do you realize Baltimore is the one with the 3-7 record against Tomlin’s Steelers the last ten games with the franchise QB, not the other way around? But perusing these comments, it’s typical that the oh, why did they fire Harbaugh comments are coming from a lot of the same people who jump on every Steeler article to say Tomlin has to go. The guy who just won the division and led it 90% of the year last year with two top tier QBs in his division. I’m just going to call you people on your s*** when I see it.
Believe it or not, I think his brother could be on the line when Herbert takes another beating this weekend.
Jim isn’t going anywhere yet. His life cycle is five years before he wears everyone out. They probably won’t go far this year because of all the injuries, but you can noticeably see a mentality shift for that team. If they upset the Patriots this weekend, I would not be at all shocked.
Raider Nation…
It was time. He should have changed that DC after last year, but the double digit blown leads were inexcusable. Everything said about Tomlin is actually true for him because he’s the one with the generational QB.
Overreaction to a bad season. He’s a good coach and will be scooped up very quickly.
Tom Brady is having heart palpitations
Literally any team but the Browns or Raiders is a perfect fit.
Oh wow
Die hard Steelers fan. What a run. Tomlin vs Harbaugh will always be legendary.
It was a great rivalry, throwback to those NFC East cdaoaching battles between Parcells, Gibbs, and Buddy Ryan.
Wonder if they make 30 for 30 out of the tomlin harbaugh rivalry
They should. That would have been a great one for those NFC East coaches too, but Buddy isn’t around anymore unfortunately.
Even moreso when they meet again when the Steelers next face the Ravens
Especially since Tomlin and Harbaugh have shown genuine respect for each other and each other’s teams. The Steelers and Ravens traditionally hate each other, but they are also very, very similar in style and makeup.
Unlike Noll and Madden or Noll and Bum, LOL
Even coaches shared in the dislike back then
I have to admit that I loved Bum Phillips even though I was a diehard Steeler fan. Bum had some swagger and so did his Oiler teams.
“This year we knocked on the door. Next year, we’re gonna kick the dam thing in”. Bum’s immortal words after a playoff loss. Agree. Good man. And he never did kick that door in
Bisciotti said he patterned his franchise after them when he bought the team.
NFL football peaked with that Ray Lewis-Big Ben era PGH vs BAL rivalry.
Wow. He’ll have another head coach job fast if he wants one. Wonder if the Ravens already have their eye on someone. Would be surprised if they don’t have Anthony Weaver back for a visit.
I’m thinking Minter for this job. I think they’re looking at what is going on in Seattle and kind of kicking themselves for not doing this last year, so the next best thing is to get the other wondercat DC working for the Harbaughs to try to replicate that. John was just burned out there. It was time.
@realfootballfan. Minter to Baltimore is probably a done deal. The defense is already set up for his scheme. They really dont need to interview him. I think Baltimore’s problem was the DC. Probably between Minter, Macdonald the assistants were raided. Minter would bring them back. Rick Minter hired john, so maybe he doesn’t out of respect, but he knows the front office.
I am surprised. Seems like a unusual decision.
He will get hired. Easily. Maybe he can have a 2nd career like Andy Reid
Would only be fitting since he is a branch of that tree.
Incorrect. He was under Jim Johnson.
Who was the DC under.. who?
No. Jim Johnson wasn’t under anybody. That defense was his, and Andy had nothing to do with the defensive head coaches he produced.
He was under Cam Cameron and then Andy Reid. What are you talking about?
Andy had nothing to do with the defense. He was a secondary coach under Jim Johnson before he became the Special Teams coach.
Wait a minute … wasnt he the all-time coach in preseason wins?
Seriously, this team has underachieved. You cant blame Harbaugh for certain players not doing enough in big games but with their talent, should have at least made a SB since 2019.
Wow
Send Tomlin to Baltimore and hire Harbaugh Pittsburgh.
#popcorn
No fan of Harbaugh. No thanks
Monken will get the job. They want Jackson to throw the ball.
Yeah, turn the Ravens into a fling-it-first team when one of their strengths has been the ground game.
One rumor is that they fired Harbaugh because he wouldn’t fire Monken.
Haha … I was being sardonic. Yeah, sardonic.
Apparently Monken’s staying on was the reason for the firing. I doubt that he’s back next year.
Bischiotti has, to his credit, been a pretty hands-off owner who’s had a lot of success. I don’t particularly love Monken as a playcaller, but Lamar has made two first team All-Pro teams. I know that the Ravens haven’t won a Super Bowl since 2012, but I think that people simply expect to win championships like they’re entitled to them. It doesn’t work like that, no matter who your team or quarterback is. If your coach is good enough to win your division or get to the playoffs almost every year, the approach should be “what do we need to add to actually get us there?” and not “these people underachieved, how dare they not win a championship with what I’ve given them!”
Now, if your coach hasn’t done much in four years or however long, and not had success, that’s a totally different story. But if your coach has a 193-124 regular and postseason record (.609%) with 6 division titles and a Super Bowl win, with two different franchise quarterbacks, you have to give him more resources, not yank him and assume that he was holding your team back. That feeling that a change is needed can easily be misleading just as much as it can be necessary….
Heard the exact opposite. Monken was the assistant he wanted to fire, and he wanted to keep the terrible DC. Saying he lost the locker room because obviously players can tell you’re going on that he’s your guy, not that his performance wasn’t up to snuff.
Well, article above cites a report from the Athletic with ownership in favor of firing Monken and Harbaugh against. Not sure which is true, but that’s what we have above, at least. I agree that Orr, while a great player-to-coach story, was wayyyy out of his depth and likely would have been fired ages ago if not for his being attached (ironically) to a successful head coach.
I don’t disagree that parting with Harbaugh is probably for the best at this point, but the fact that Zach Orr has not had to answer for mismanaging one of the most talented defenses in the league is mind-boggling.
That was his fatal error. He should have fired him early last year. They won against a bunch of cream puffs down the stretch that inflated stats, but the dropoff from McDonald to his defense was noticeable. Also, the Ravens might have erred in not doing this last year and promoting McDonald. He’s looking like a keeper.
Oof wrong move Ravens
Don’t blame me
Shouldve drafted him an EDGE rusher instead
They drafted Mike Green, you’re aware of that right?
Who?
Kliff kingsbury to Baltimore
Lmao
Do it Miami … dump McDaniel and get Harbaugh. Run the ball like the Csonka-Kiick-Morris days.
Matt Ryan’s first order of business just became quite clear……….
Just 1st hour rumors… but I’m hearing reports that Harbaugh himself is putting out feelers with the Dolphins… but won’t make it publicly known while mcDaniel is there…. reason being he could bring in his own GM which no other team will offer
“I’m hearing reports….”
Ok thanks
Multiple sauces, cans confirm
To be fair it was the local radio station that airs Dolphins games with beat writers both locally and nationally saying it.. wasn’t something I just made up lol
If Loop makes field goal Sunday night, Harbaugh would be preparing Ravens for Texans playoff game. Bad move by slick hair owner Bisciotti. Too many injuries to defense early in season and Lamar missed 5 games this year. Should have canned DC Orr. Blame GM DeCosta for not having decent offensive guards. That was weak link on team along with not much depth.
If Loop makes field goal Sunday night, Harbaugh would be preparing
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That’s what I came in to say. I’d love to see my Raiders go after him.
Joe, had no idea you were a Raiders fan. From a fan of one dumpster fire (Giants) to another, my condolences.
Joe how does a person get to be a Red Sox fan & a Raiders fan simultaneously??? …now that is a rare combination I have never come across before haha. I’m a Mariners/Seahawks guy. I know, what a concept. (Been a good sports year in Sea,)
Miami fanboy fantasy (that will never happen lol)…. Dolphins bring in Harbaugh but McDaniel stays as his OC.. keeps weaver as his DC (he came from the Ravens) and brings in a competent GM
Harbaugh to Steelers, Tomlin to Ravens
I’m surprised they actually pulled the plug on him! No question things were rough & he needed to go but still it seemed like this would have been a mutual parting of ways type of thing.
lamar is the most overrated qb in nfl. maybe of all time
meanwhile, harbaugh will need less than 24 hours to get a new job
Two MVP’s though. You can’t be an overrated scrub yet still snag two trophies.
How many other teams will now fire their coach to try and get a shot at hiring Harbaugh?
What a dumb move by the Ravens. I wish the cowboys would get him
This makes no sense
Didn’t expect a straight up firing. Why not see if NYG would give a pick? He is going to get another job by SB they could have traded him.
Go get em tom!
Well, if Steelers part ways with Tomlin… Here is the replacement, if he’s looking to coach for another 20+ years
Harbaugh is 63, lol. Do some of you think of this stuff before you type it?
Ok. So what? Just because you’re gonna be a vegetable at 80 something doesn’t mean everyone else will. You act like people have to stop working at a certain age… Calm down Nancy lol jeez
Dumb dumb double dumb. He will find a new job and succeed. COLTS!!!!!
Steichen is a good HC. Indianapolis doesn’t need to make a switch.
Yeah, he’s been handcuffed by the GM, who I would have fired. He’s had more than ample time to get that right and hasn’t. I don’t know how you have confidence in him still after all these years, not to mention that ridiculous Gardner trade.
Likely an unpopular opinion – Lamar jackson is the “problem in Baltimore” if he’s forced to throw the ball down the field they lose. Great athlete and quarterback but he’s limited with his abilities when the Ravens are trailing by 2 scores.
Yep, looked like the problem the other night when he brought them back three seperate times throwing downfield. Some of you won’t let go that you were dead wrong about him coming into the league. He’s an all-time great. An all-time great QB isn’t your problem, especially when your defense has declined greatly the last two years. He’s barely run the ball the last two years, and still people like you are talking about how an “athletic” QB won’t win anything but then will say in the same breath how Josh Allen who still runs a ton can. I’ve said it a million times, Lamar Jackson and Steve Young are twins. If you were one of the ones who thought he couldn’t win it all back then, you were wrong then too.
It’s almost like there’s a racist element to it at times.
I never said he wouldn’t win anything. I never said anything about johs allen, don’t be so emotional.
He’s a better player when he’s not asked to throw as much. He’s 40-12 when throwing less then 25x. He’s 34-24 when throwing more then 25x. He has 5 games with 5 passing tds, the most he threw in any of those games was 23 times. He’s played 8 playoff games and gone over 200 yards passing 3 times (all losses). He is 0-4 when passing 25 times or more in the playoffs. He is 3-1 when throwing less then 25x in the playoffs. He’s 1-4 in the playoffs when he doesn’t rush for 100 yards.
Again, great athlete and quarterback. He has limitations. It’s your world, feel free to disregard them.
Damn they actually did it
This is so insane to me.
They win that division in dominant fashion with double digit wins if Lamar never gets hurt, guaranteed.
And they fire him, over a lost season? When the NFL is WIDE OPEN right now for the taking?
Amazing.
I was a huge supporter of Harbaugh until the New England game when he they had the lead and didn’t use Henry in the fourth quarter. I think that was the last straw for fans and the owner. Short of winning the Pittsburgh game and making a deep run in the playoffs, he was finished regardless. Great coach, but time for a change for him and the team.
He’s got 18 double digit blown fourth quarter leads since he got hired, most since the 90s. Whatever the case is, that’s on him. This spans different QBs, different DCs, different personnel. That opener against Buffalo this year is a microcosm of his blind spot as an HC. He needs to address how to be better at that before he takes his next job. His brother’s teams are the opposite of this.
Can you blame Harbaugh for the bad play of Lamar in some games, fumbles by Flower in the AFC championship game against KC, how about the drop 2pt pass by Andrews against Buffalo in another AFC Championship game. Then there is last Sunday night game against Pittsburgh, a miss game winning field goal with 2 seconds left. Wherever Harbaugh goes Atl, NYG etc., you are going to get a real good coach, they will be improved just for leadership value. As far as Baltimore, if they don’t make the playoff next year, will there be another coaching change, or who will get the blame will it be Lamar, the front office, maybe even ownership for hiring this new coach and not getting to the playoffs the first year. Baltimore is a team in flux now, where it goes from here is going to be interesting, how any seasons will it take to get back to the way Baltimore was a consistence winning and playoff team.
Yes, I can blame him for why his teams have been losing double digit fourth quarter leads well before this iteration of his team. This has spanned different DCs and qBs. Who else would you blame? I remember the Dolphin game a couple of years ago where they lost a 25 point fourth quarter lead or something, so the Buffalo meltdown to start this year wasn’t even the biggest one. You might want to dig into how much this has happened. Again, 18 fourth quarter blown double digit leads since 2008 when he got the job.
So two championship winning coaches with a combined 377 wins get fired within days of each other? Job security ain’t what it use to be…lol.
The only way this makes sense for me is if they can somehow get Tomlin or Belichick. It’s a win now roster they don’t need some new coach. McCarthy or Jason Garrett seem like reasonable options as well
17 attempts have been made by SB winning head coaches to repeat the accomplishment with a different team. Guess how many of those attempts have been successful? That’s right…ZERO!
Or they could do like seattle did and identify the next guy who will take them where they need to go.
When the split with Pete and Seattle was made that what I was concerned of. Just grabbing a retread somewhere. Hawks spent time and identified best choice for job.
John Schneider is a super smart GM; I wonder if those blown draft picks the Hawks were getting late 2010’s/early 2020’s were more Pete Carroll’s doings?? JS sure has had a better go on that front lately as well.
We are lucky to have him in Seattle. Has been great for Seattle. Having a owner like The Allen’s has helped also.
Schneider suffered when Scott McCloughan left the organization. The drafts got better around 2016 or 2107, years before Carrolll got fired.
So this is exactly why Mike Tomlin should have been fired YEARS ago. The man hasn’t won a playoff game in almost 10 years. If Harbaugh who won one last year and the year prior is fired for a year where a Jackson injury derailed the entire season, then Tomlin should have been gone years ago.
Tomlin even if he wins this weekend should be removed. Harbaugh will have the job of his choice this offseason if he wants it.
Now let’s see is there a better available coach right now to lead the Ravens? Which way are the Ravens management going to go? Will the Ravens players buy into whoever the Ravens bring in and are the fans willing to give a new HC enough slack in seasons, because it won’t be a SBowl in 2026 it has never happen before. Will there be backstabbing about the new HC not being up to snuff, will they blame Lamar because it does seem he will be having a big say in who will be the next HC, will he agree to whoever it is if management says were going to hire and leaves him out of the loop? Remember when you fire someone, is the HC you hire better than the guy you just fired.
There is likely going to be a flurry of disingenuous interviews with Minority Candidates to comply with the Rooney Rule and clear the path to Harbaugh and Stefanski.
It’s a two way street. You make it sound as if the candidates are never disingenuous but we know differently. Imagine if nobody could be hired without first passing a polygraph exam 🙂
led not lead