The Saints used a first- or second-round pick on a quarterback for the first time in 54 years, but despite Derek Carr‘s retirement, Tyler Shough will begin his rookie season as a backup.
New Orleans has named Spencer Rattler as its Week 1 starter, the team announced Tuesday. The 2024 fifth-round pick battled Shough during a monthslong competition, this year’s last QB battle to wrap. This will now mean nearly a fourth of the league (seven teams) will be starting a 2024 draftee at quarterback to open the season. Rattler joins Michael Penix Jr., Drake Maye and J.J. McCarthy in being set to start in Week 1 for the first time.
Rattler finished the preseason 30 of 43 for 295 yards with a touchdown and an interception; Shough was 36 of 54 for 333 yards — also adding one TD and one INT. The Saints cut their third-stringer, Jake Haener, earlier today. Haener had initially been part of the competition, but it became a Rattler-Shough matchup as the process wore on.
This decision is unlikely to inspire too much confidence among Saints fans, especially with a highly drafted rookie not doing enough to unseat a player who did not impress as Carr’s primary fill-in last season. Rattler lost each of his six starts, with the Saints losing five of those games by double digits. Rattler completed 57% of his passes for 1,317 yards as a rookie, closing the part-time starter year with a 4:5 TD-INT ratio. That said, Rattler was working with a cast of backup wide receivers — due to the season-ending injuries sustained by Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed — during most of his time replacing Carr.
Olave and Shaheed are back at work ahead of Rattler’s first Week 1 opportunity, and the Saints reunited with Brandin Cooks this offseason. They also brought in Devaughn Vele via trade, sending fourth- and seventh-round picks to the Broncos for a 6-foot-5 pass catcher who saw the second-most snaps among Denver wide receivers last season. This gives the Saints a solid top four a year after they were trotting out backup-level cogs for much of the season.
Kellen Moore gave Rattler the first preseason start, and that proved telling. Still, the ex-Oklahoma and South Carolina starter’s grip on the job might be tenuous. It stands to reason the Saints will want to see what they have in Shough, so a quick hook would not be surprising. The Saints are not projected to be a playoff contender, even with a host of proven veterans still rostered, and the team will be connected to what looks like a better QB class (compared to 2025, at least) ahead of next year’s draft. With the prospect of a first-round investment in a passer looming in 2026, Shough’s place on the team is a bit more interesting after today’s news.
Connected to a few arms in April, the Saints were among the QB-needy teams to pass on Shedeur Sanders twice. They fortified their O-line with Kelvin Banks Jr. at No. 9 and then added Shough at 40. Shough gained steam during the pre-draft process, impressing despite spending seven years in college — Shough is a year older than Rattler — and carrying a notable injury history into the NFL. But the former Louisville, Texas Tech and Oregon option will begin the season as a backup. This will stall the Saints’ evaluation of a soon-to-be 26-year-old rookie.
Three years remain on Rattler’s rookie contract. The Saints have not drafted a first-round QB since Archie Manning in 1971; it will be interesting to see if anything Rattler or Shough do this season could prevent the Saints from a higher-profile QB investment next year. For now, Rattler has the keys and will work behind an O-line housing four first-round picks (and standout center Erik McCoy, a former second-rounder).
Goodell “with the 1st pick in the NFL Draft the Saints select…’ Hopefully the paper bags are brought out again. Them or the Colts.
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If Manning declares, they’ll stay with the family history.
Manning won’t declare I think if saints are there.
Manning won’t declare, period. He’s going to be the full time starter for at least 2 seasons at Texas.
I didn’t even think Shough was a better prospect than Rattler, and I especially don’t get the point of spending a second rounder on a dicey QB prospect when you’re a leading candidate to draft number one overall the next year. Quarterbacks drafted on day two have a high bust rate even when they don’t come over-aged with limited college success and a lot of injury history.
Quarterbacks drafted have a high bust rate. I fixed it for you.
It’s much, much higher on day two, with way fewer big success stories. There have been what, two good starting quarterbacks taken in the second round this millennium? And we’re talking about Dalton and Carr here.
Hurts is the best one, Geno is pretty good and it depends on how you feel about Kaepernick’s peak counting as whether he’s a bust or not, but yeah it’s bleak. Most teams want to at least trade up to the late first to prove it’s “their guy”. Second round QB is just a half measure.
Whoops yeah, forgot the best one and two of the other best. Good catches.
This one feels more like Jimmy Clausen. A year later the Panthers were taking Cam first.
Na Clausen was a guy who had too much handed to him. Went to Mater Dei. Hyped up as the next big thing at ND. Drafted high because of the ND hype.
Then for the first time ever faces adversity.
If anything, Shough would be more like that Jake Locker kid. Remember him?
I remember Locker. He might have been a better baseball player than football player. He also completed his last NFL pass when he was less than a year older than Shough is now.
lol what are you talking about? This Millenium would include Drew Brees, Andy dalton, Russell Wilson, geno smith, Derek Carr, Jalen hurts, and that’s just day 2 picks. Even Lamar was 1 pick away from being day 2. What about day 3/UDFA? That would include Brady, Romo, Russell Wilson, Kirk cousins, Purdy. There’s also plenty of busts in the top 10, so why not take a shot at a guy who could be your guy in the 2nd round?
Maybe Shough isn’t the guy, but that’s not a reason not to take a 2nd round stab at him and if it doesn’t work draft your guy this year. I don’t think Shough is gonna win you a Super Bowl, but I do think he’s going to do better than all the haters’ expectations this year. He projects to be very similar to Derek Carr, ironically.
Cool man. Now that’s out of how many? And no, you don’t get to count Lamar for being an almost.
When Derek Carr was Tyler Shough’s age, he had already completed over a thousand passes in the NFL. Shough didn’t even *attempt* that many over the course of seven years in college.
Those were just the QBs off the top of my head, I could just as easily give you a list of top 10 QBs who were absolute busts. Point is, you take shots at QBs in the draft and you certainly give them longer than 3 weeks of the preseason before you declare them a bust
Sure, but I also think his profile as a prospect is extremely risky. Very old, long injury history, never great in college. I think the second was rich for him, and a team that’s so likely to draft high in the first in a better quarterback draft shouldn’t be burning a second rounder on that.
When you don’t have a franchise QB you keep drafting them until you do. If Shough and Rattler suck you try again next year.
another very questionable offseason by Mickey Loomis. He also just traded the first pick of day 3 of the draft in exchange for a 28 yr old WR.
Vele is exactly what a young QB needs. A tall, reliable target. They clearly traded for him with Rattler in mind.
Because you still want folks to have a reason to come to the stadium and spend money. I agree they are likely back to picking a QB next year, but this year is still fluid, and you have to show the fans and your players that you are still trying to win this year.
Isn’t that what got them into this mess? They also spent on Young and Reid and traded for a receiver for some reason. How much do they need to prove to fans in what fans know is a non-contending year?
Because a lot of people aren’t hardcore fans. They hear the Saints not doing anything to compete this year, they automatically stay home. Always a balancing act, because for most this is just entertainment.
Casual fans are going to show up because they heard the Saints have a 26 year old rookie second round quarterback riding the bench?
Not if you sell it that way. They can spin it as drafting a young gunslinger, come to the stadium and watch him grow!
In all honesty, I wouldn’t be surprised if both Moore and Shough aren’t with the team next year. They are going to be bad, and Moore seemed like a, “well he’s the guy who’s left” choice as head coach.
Never count the Saints out.
You answered the question yourself.
QBs bust all the time.
So it’s wise to take as many swings as possible. Whether Shough was the right pick is questionable, but taking a QB is not.
Agreed, and Shough was considered a solid prospect. This isn’t a guy who can’t throw here. He’s considered a potential gunslinger.
Saints fans –
What’s this mean for Olave? Which QB suits his abilities better?
I think Olave can be fine with anyone provided he’s able to play. He’d be better off with a better quarterback than either. I think this hurts Shaheed more than it affects Olave, since Rattler is less of a deep threat.
I thought the same in terms of Shaheed. Neither of these guys have amazing arm power from what I can gather and Shaheed is obviously best at that.
Yeah Olave is basically Devonta Smith-lite. A technician who can run pretty much any route and doesn’t need to always be a go route guy.
I think if he can stay healthy he could actually be a little better. And I say that as someone who really likes Smith. But Olave brings a little more length and speed to being a great route runner.
And that’s the sound of Saints fans hitting “sim to offseason”
3-14 record in 2025
Sure seems like they could have done better hear….
Rattler me this, Rattler me that, the Saints with the first pick, barring a miracle is where they’ll be at.
Shough is the future at QB in New Orleans until he isn’t. You don’t draft a QB in the second round for no reason. He’s just not ready yet, I guess.
Josh Rosen was the number ten pick in the draft. A year later, he was a Miami Dolphin. Jerry Glanville said it all when he said NFL stands for Not For Long. High round QB picks generally don’t get two, three, four years to blossom now.
Either you’re the answer or you’re not.
Yeah, no.
Rosen is literally the only one that happened to a year after he was drafted, and that literally only happened because they had the number one pick, and Kyler Murray was available.
Nice try though.
Now go dig through second round picks.
Cool. Totally means nothing.
Shough ’nuff is the baddest [radio edit] ’round town!
I’m sure at the Saints had a plan following the departure of Drew Brees. But whatever that plan was, it is not working.
I think Taysom Hill was originally the plan but either way the plan went out the window when Payton left.