Sunday’s loss dropped the Jets to 0-5 on the season. As the new regime led by general manager Darren Mougey and head coach Aaron Glenn approaches its first trade deadline, a seller’s stance would certainly come as no surprise. 
Provided New York shows a willingness to move on from one or more players over the coming weeks, a few notable names could be mentioned rather frequently in the near future. Ralph Vacchiano of Fox Sports reports the Jets are among the teams viewed as likely sellers ahead of the deadline. Colleague Eric Williams adds guard Alijah Vera-Tucker is a potential trade candidate.
Vera-Tucker suffered a triceps tear shortly before the start of the regular season. He is out for the campaign as a result, adding further to the injury woes the former first-rounder has dealt with. After playing just 12 games between the 2022 and ’23 campaigns, Vera-Tucker managed to log 15 appearances last season. Given his latest major ailment, though, suitors would not be acquiring the 26-year-old as a blocker capable of contributing this season.
Vera-Tucker is currently attached to his fifth-year option, which carries a salary of $15.31MM for 2025. Paying out the remainder of that figure for a player who continues to rehab could of course be a tall task for an acquiring team. Still, if a suitor viewed the USC product as the target of a deal beyond 2025, acquiring him via trade would prevent the need to win a bidding war in free agency. Likewise, the Jets would be in line for 2026 draft compensation through trade as opposed to a 2027 compensatory pick in the event of a departure on the open market next spring.
Elsewhere on the Jets’ roster, running back Breece Hall is still the subject of speculation regarding a trade. Glenn assured the 24-year-old he would not be dealt this past offseason, but as of August a swap remained something to watch for as the campaign unfolded. Given the start to the season, the Jets are not in contention for a playoff berth. That could increase Mougey’s willingness to swing a deal, although moving on from Hall – who is playing out the final year of his rookie contract – would leave the Jets thin in the backfield given Braelon Allen‘s long-term knee injury.
ESPN’s Rich Cimini writes New York has provided “no indication” Hall is being shopped. A deal allowing him to remain with the Jets could of course still be possible after the campaign, although with a regime other than the one which drafted the former second-rounder now in place, a departure would not be entirely surprising. Hall has yet to score a touchdown this season, but he has averaged an impressive six yards per touch, the highest figure in that regard since his rookie campaign.
The 2025 trade deadline falls on the afternoon of November 4. Plenty of time remains for key decisions to be made until that point, but the Jets could field offers on a number of players over the coming weeks.
A huge number of teams could use AVT if he’s healthy… but since we know he’s not going to be this season (and often isn’t in the first place), hard to see that happening before the offseason.
As for Hall, I’ve thought since the offseason that he might end up a Chiefs trade target. Still wouldn’t be surprised.
Ive been pining for a Hall trade, not because I dont like Hall, but no one in their right mind would come back to this regime after seeing how its transpiring and we should get something for him before we get nothing.
I dont trust this GM to make the obvious moves honestly, given how they shoo’d out Rodgers and Adams and legitimately thought Justin Fields is a starting QB in the NFL
There was no way a new regime was going to start with Rodgers. Adams wasn’t going to stick around when he could go to a competitive team on the west coast. I wasn’t all that optimistic about Fields, but it was worth a roll of the dice on a short term deal with only bad options on the market.
Thats kind of the problem though, if a regime decides the better option is to move away from the best available option (running it back with Rodgers and Adams and drafting a QB to learn behind him in the meantime) and opt for a terrible sequence of personnel and coaching decisions instead, which have lead to a 0-5 team with even worse discipline than a team in the middle of a fired HC year… theyre not a regime worth hiring nor do they deserve to mess up the top 3 pick we look poised to have.
You even see it yourself, there were bad options on the market… so how can someone justify moving away from a QB whos clearly still playing at a high level, depleting our WR corps in the process, and not having a plan at either position other than a lottery ticket and Josh Reynolds WR2? We were a good kicker away from a solid record last year, maybe even a playoff berth and they punted that all away and now i cant imagine even hoping for the playoffs in the next 2-3 years minimum. Is the Rodgers plan ideal? No. Was it the best one available to the Jets entering the offseason? Yeah.
Honestly i think Woody wouldnt hire anyone willing to keep Rodgers but thats just me speculating
Rodgers wasn’t playing at a high enough level to contend with the Jets. Not much sense in keeping a QB that old to not compete. Also seemed unfair to break in a new offensive coordinator with a quarterback who would resist running a lot of contemporary NFL plays. They absolutely needed to do more at wide receiver (and Arian Smith was a weird reach over guys who could be contributing more right now), but they were never going to realistically keep Adams around.
Rodgers’ 2nd half of the year, after becoming more comfortable on an achilles he torn just the year prior, was definitely a high enough level to content with the Jets. His level of play honestly was not the problem when special teams couldnt make a FG and the defense coughed up so many 4th Q leads. And Rodgers is with maybe with the most contemporary/basic OC in Arthur Smith and you dont see a refusal there nor a lack of offensive success there, so that narrative is tiring. Having Rodgers audible out of a broken play instead of hiking it anyways like Z Wilson was a good thing btw.
The Rodgers and draft a QB plan was the best plan available and out of ego they canned him without having a good plan at the most important position in the game. Idc if a rookie HC would get told by one of the best QBs around things that work because then again, inking a seasoned HC was the correct move and not another complete rookie staff learning on the job.
I think you’re overestimating how much Rodgers has actually shown this year when not playing against the horrendous Jets defense. He’s good enough to make sense for a needy team with a playoff caliber roster. That’s Pittsburgh, not the Jets. And there wasn’t a particularly good quarterback to draft this past year for the Jets.
I dont think I am. The Jets were a good kicker away from being a playoff team in 2024 and hes been just fine being the solid vet QB we begged for in 2022-23 for the Steelers. Its also wild to say there wasnt a good QB for the Jets to draft not even 1 year after said draft. Having a guy like Dart sit for a full year behind Rodgers couldve definitely been beneficial.
Like I said, is that plan ideal? No. But was that the best plan available? Yeah. Having a decent option like Rodgers in the now and a young QB learning behind him for the future is definitely a much better plan than being completely directionless in the now and the future. Im not sure how you disagree?
Because having Rodgers at his age isn’t a direction forward? Because I don’t think trading up from their second pick to take Dart would have been worthwhile? Because the Jets defense is notably worse than last year? This team is not a perfectly fine starting QB away from being good.
Having a QB learning behind Rodgers is absolutely is a direction forward long term. Where are we not agreeing here? You’d have a starting caliber QB now and hopefully if you develop a talent correctly, for the future. Having an 0-5 team and no short term or long term plan to turn this around is a step back from the year before. Missing out on Mason Taylor isnt fixing this defense anyways, nor would missing out on the rest of their draft for that matter.
The Jets defense is worse than last year because this regime thinks Andre Cisco, Brandon Stephens, Tony Adams, etc. are starters. They That does not mean bringing Rodgers and Adams back wasnt the best plan available. What it does mean is they shouldve never been hired in the first place, even more so.
Im not even arguing this team would be “good” only better short term and long term had they went a different direction
If not Ward or Dart, what quarterback are you imagining would have been a long term plan?
It is WAY too early to tell you this. Im not a pro scout and a lot of these guys haven’t seen game time yet, so its hard for me to establish a real opinion here.
I personally liked Gabriel out of Oregon and Will Howard for later round QBs but who knows, maybe a guy like Ewers will surprise people. I was high on Dart but I thought he’d go in the 2nd round honestly and obviously Jets wouldnt have been able to get Ward.
Also sorry for the typos lol I wish there was an edit button. Typing these on mobile in a small square seems to lead me to jumbling together sentences i thought i erased
I got what you meant. I liked Gabriel fine entering the draft, but his most likely outcome was always going to be backup. The rest of those guys… there’s a reason the whole league let them fall in the draft. I think they all fall in the category of flyer more than anything resembling a plan.
I see their problem as coaching. They had a talented D and are now one of the worst in the league, only Dallas has given up more points. Looks like Glenn is in over his head. I didn’t think he had a great resume to be HC other than being in the league for a while. Too many penalties, a rookie OC, and not much else positive going on. Overall Fields hasn’t been as bad as we thought. Their last game should have been their come out game for the season. Win a game against a bad D. It wasn’t even close. No fight or determination to win.
If anyone makes a move
For Breece it’s cardinals.
Would be nice as they don’t have a lot of playmakers, but their D can’t close out weak opponents. CAR came back on them and made it close, then they let TENN back door them. Not good.
It would help tho
Why would anyone want Tucker? Always hurt, and even in his 2 almost-full seasons he wasn’t an impact lineman. No pro bowl, second team all pro, or first team all pro selections.
Guys is replacement level.
Hes good when healthy, problem is hes rarely healthy. Replacement level is not an accurate description of his talents just because you dont see any awards on his Football Reference page
Beg, I don’t see any awards on his page simply because he hasn’t won any at the NFL level. There is nothing wrong with being replacement level or a run of the mill starter. That is a job that only a handful of people in the entirety of the world will every achieve and good on him, I hope he stays healthy and does well.
I just won’t talk a guy up because he is in the news when he hasn’t demonstrated he actually lives up to being “good”.
You not seeing rewards on his page doesnt mean hes replacement level lol Hes an above average offensive lineman that you can shift around the line in a pinch, hes just never healthy.
Would you say that pro bowl, second or first team all pro would mean above average?
I think that is the entire purpose of awards are to show youre above average in a category. If you’re listing out top OL in the league how far down the list does it take you to get to Tucker?
You not seeing awards on his page does not mean he is replacement level.
You can literally replace him with a guy who also has zero awards.
Where would you rank Tucker for OL in the league? Honestly, if you look at it logically you have to go down pretty far before you call his name.
You not seeing awards does not mean he is replacement level.
Eric Decker has no awards but in 2012 he had the 2nd most receiving TDs, was Eric Decker replacement level? No.
Stop huffing paint
So lets break that down. His 3 beat years produced an AV of 9, 12, and 9. Tuckers has a career high AV of 7.
So just by that alone Decker was able to add 30% more value than Tuckers best season.
AV is also skewed in favor of offensive scoring positions as well because they have more impact on the game. Jayden Reed for exa.ple carried a 9 AV for having less than 800 yards and 8 TD in 2023. You could likely put any slot guy in that role and he would produce similarly.
Quentin Nelson considered to be one of the better guards in the league earlier in his career was doubling the AV of tucker. Other guards to make all pro also near that mark.
No paint. Just facts. Not comparing receivers to lineman. Or a guy who hasn’t played in almost 10 years to make a false equivalence.
Fact, when healthy and at his best which is roughly 50% of his career so far, Tuckers is middle of the pack for production and has never won an individual award for his best seasons.
Holy strawman. The conversation was never about career production value to date when considering his injuries.
AVT is good when healthy, the problem is hes never healthy. When he is on the field he is an above average talent. Because he is an above average player, he is not a replacement level player, regardless of the lack of awards on his football reference page.
You actually think that if a player doesnt have awards, they are replacement level. I brought up a clear above average player that has never won awards to highlight the flaw in your logic, not to compare career values between two players of two different positions, but you knew that. You are not smart enough to keep up this conversation without trying to completely derail what the conversation is about just so you can be right about something. You are an intellectually dishonest loser
So lets look at your point then. “AVT is good when healthy”.
In his only two healthy years he was not good enough to win any individual awards. That is a fact.
You are using name calling and poor logic to cover the fact that this guy is not at all good.
Awards are not the only marker for whether or not a guy is good, you seem to have forgotten the Eric Decker reference already.
You not seeing awards does not mean the player is not good, you intellectually dishonest loser.
Show your reasoning for saying he is good when healthy. Define good. Define how you apply that to tucker.
It is that simple. You refuse to do it because you cant.
PFF had him ranked top 10 amongst guards in 2024 while allowing the 3rd fewest pressures and 2nd fewest hurries and was ranked 5th in pass blocking efficiency. Thats pretty good.
It is that simple, i just did it because I can.
So simple you left off he was ranked outside the top 20 after his first season heading into 22, and 30th heading into his rookie year.
I’m also not a huge fan of PFFs rankings either. The hurries are fine and pressures but the problem remains is if he is that prolific then why didn’t he make even 2nd team all pro or even a pro bowl?
It’s because he isn’t special. Ball doesn’t lie. Hall didnt even touch 900 yards running behind him last year.
You dont know ball, give it up.
You always make this comment about people Macbeth, but replacement level means the kind of guy you find on the waiver wire or the back of rosters. It doesn’t mean anyone who isn’t a top five player at his position. Even solid starting players are much better than replacement level. Tucker is very good when healthy.
See that is the issue, I just have a different definition of “very good” or even “good”. For a guy like Tucker I would say he is “Solid”.
Solid to me is a starter in the league. Not a game changer but reliable enough. Tucker is barely that considering his injury history.
A guy like Dan Moore Jr. to me is “solid”. He starts most games, he has ups and downs but the floor to ceiling margin you get is narrow so you know what you are going to get.
Compare that to someone like Rashawn Slater who has similar injury history but has made 2 pro bowls and 1 second team all pro.
I have the same definition issue with the hall of fame. Should be the best of all time in the hall, yet guys like Kurt Warner and Terrell Davis somehow get in.
Tucker is a better guard than Moore is a center and again, that’s not what replacement level means. Go look up what the term replacement level means in sports.
If it is definition you are at odds with I am fine with using “AVERAGE” for him. You could find a similar OL production out of any round 1-4 usually as far as production/value level metrics are concerned.
I think AVT is better than you think he is when he’s healthy, but also I think your being a Packers fan might be skewing your understanding of how high the hit rate on offensive linemen after the first round is.
I can find several examples across the league on average starters that were drafted in rounds 2-4. Dan Moore came to mind because he played in Pittsburgh where I live most of his pro career. he wasn’t great he wasn’t awful…he was just there.
Packers are an outlier for O-Line production in later rounds I can admit that but they also often are in the system for several years before getting into meaningful snap counts.
Let’s use Pittsburgh as an example. Mason McCormick last year in 14 starts had an AV (approx value) that was 1 less than AVT last year. AVT is 5%+ of the cap, McCormick less than 0.5% of the cap.
I picked a random team I don’t follow at all, the Falcons. Matthew Bergeron had an AV of 1 less than AVT last year and he was a 2nd round pick.
Another random team the Cardinals. Isaiah Adams in only 5 starts last year had an AV of 3, I would be very curious to see where he finishes this year if he started 15 like AVT did last year.
There are misses for sure, but for a 1st round pick unless the Jets are taking on some salary or a team is in a really tough spot for a middle of the road starter, I don’t see the value.
Wait, who on earth is talking about spending a first round pick to acquire Tucker now? No one. He’s an injured guard at the back of his rookie deal. If the Jets trade him, I doubt it’s even for a day two pick. And yeah, there are 64 starting guards in football. Of course there are a bunch of later round success stories. That doesn’t make the hit rate high. There’s a reason so many teams have given out big free agent contracts to guards (even the Packers) or traded for them. There’s also a reason why so many teams are desperate for solid starting guard play.
No one was talking about using a first to get him, not sure where that came from.
Big contracts don’t equate to talent. Plenty of depth level guys get good deals and good for them. AVT is one of those guys, so is Dan Moore as I mentioned earlier.
For the cap hit he has he isn’t worth giving up any draft capital for unless the Jets take salary on and even then its a late pick at best.
Here’s a direct copy and paste from you: “There are misses for sure, but for a 1st round pick unless the Jets are taking on some salary or a team is in a really tough spot for a middle of the road starter, I don’t see the value.”
He’s saying that AVT was a first round pick and the salary he’s owed isn’t worth trading for unless the Jets pay down some of the salary. Is it worth it for the Jets to take on some salary just to move him for a 4th-7th round pick? Is it worth it for the acquiring team trading for an oft injured, but average starter if the Jets do/do not take on some of the salary? I guess we will see.
I don’t think it’s that much money considering the guard market the last couple of years. The Bears still wanted to trade for Jonah Jackson when he was a disastrous signing for the Rams.
I wasn’t arguing defending or discrediting either of your two’s arguments. Just trying to clarify his points in a different voice so the argument could end.
Kzw that is correct, I worded it a bit poorly after a second look.
I didn’t pay much attention to the Jets last season—where there any issues between Hall and Rodgers? Hall could be the missing ingredient to a running game for the Steelers offense. They already appeared to be going all in and with the way the rest of the division and conference has played it’s even more wide open for them to try and make a run.
I dont think so, and if there were any reported im sure it was wildly inaccurate. Its hard pressed to find teammates or coaches that actually have problems with Aaron Rodgers, despite what the media wants you to think.
49ers should trade for Breece Hall. CMC eventually will miss games due to being overused. Especially this season
The 49ers desperately need to keep replenishing their rookie contract talent. They shouldn’t spend an amount of draft capital worth the Jets’ while to acquire yet another running back.
Titans? Cam Ward and Breece Hall leading their offence sounds good for the future
There’s no future for anyone in Nashville unless they have some music talent.
Hall to the Chargers
The way this season is going, move them for as much draft capital as possible.
GM Poles make it happen Hall to Chicago!