Maxx Crosby has not requested a trade, and both Mark Davis and Klint Kubiak have attempted to calm the waters after a few reports have indicated the star edge rusher wants nothing to do with another rebuild. A staring contest may emerge here, as the Raiders are understandably setting a high asking price.
Las Vegas would want a Micah Parsons-level return in a Crosby trade, veteran insider Jordan Schultz notes. The Cowboys received two first-rounders and Kenny Clark from the Packers last August. Parsons was 26 at the time of the trade, while Crosby is entering an age-29 season. That will affect the trade compensation, but Crosby being tied to a team-friendlier contract compared to what the Packers needed to authorize would help the Raiders’ case for a two-first-rounder package as well.
Pass rushers generally do not fetch this kind of return, but the Raiders were part of the other notable pickup. The Bears’ Khalil Mack package featured two firsts just before the 2018 season. After the Raiders finished with only 13 sacks in 2018, Crosby — as a 2019 fourth-round pick — stepped in to anchor the unit. He was part of Jon Gruden‘s rebuild effort, and the team has continued to cycle through head coaches and GMs since.
With Fernando Mendoza likely coming to Vegas, the team is set for another rebuild. Crosby has made it known he wants no part of that route, with a report indicating his camp is telling teams the the five-time Pro Bowler seeks a fresh start. This could lead to a staredown.
Like Parsons, Mack needed a new contract post-trade. Crosby’s $35.5MM-per-year extension runs through 2029, giving this trade landscape an interesting wrinkle. It took a $40MM-AAV extension for Myles Garrett to come off his hardline trade ask last year. Like Crosby, Garrett was dissatisfied with being an All-Pro talent in a rebuilding situation. Garrett had not been paid since 2020, but with Crosby being extended last March, it would be a surprise if this contract is a big issue.
Both Bradley Chubb and Frank Clark fetched first-round picks and other draft assets. Clark cost the Chiefs first-, second- and third-rounders, though Kansas City snared a third-rounder back from Seattle in that 2019 swap. Chubb and Clark were younger than Crosby at the time of the trades, but each also signed a new contract shortly after being moved. Ditto Jared Allen in 2008, who brought first- and third-rounders back to Kansas City from Minnesota. A pass rusher of Crosby’s age and caliber being moved without new money being involved adds intrigue here.
The Raiders do not have to act. Davis has slammed the door on trade interest in the past, and Kubiak is obviously interested in the Raiders keeping their top player to start his HC tenure. Crosby expressing frustration to the point this becomes a messy situation for the Raiders would bring a test for Davis, John Spytek and Tom Brady. Teams are unable to waive fines for players on veteran contracts who hold out of training camp. That would bring a test for Crosby’s motivation to leave Nevada.
Las Vegas’ front office-led effort to shut down Crosby — in a week where Brock Bowers was also placed on IR — irked the accomplished EDGE, and trade rumors have continually emerged since. Crosby did undergo surgery to repair his meniscus, and a monthslong recovery is on tap. This could slow trade talks, though with the eighth-year veteran not being in jeopardy of missing regular-season time, it would be hard to believe trade action would stop because of this rehab process.
It would make sense for the Raiders to move Crosby before the draft, if they ultimately do decide to ignite a bidding war, to accumulate assets to help Mendoza in his rookie year. The Cowboys and Gruden-era Raiders respectively waited until the late-summer trade window to move Parsons and Mack. How Crosby navigates the coming weeks will determine how serious the prospect of his Vegas exit becomes.
It’s like you ‘writers’ are willing this into a story. Pathetic
lol, it very much is. He went on a press tour and never once said he wanted to be a Raider. He could have ended this easily if he wanted. Instead he ranted on with corpo speak that didn’t say much about anything.
Maxx was literally wearing all Raider gear during those interviews and was inside the Raider building (as he is everyday). Yeah the guy doesn’t want to be there right? Actions speak louder than words.
Just because he rehabs and works out doesn’t mean he is happy and wants to stay. It just means he isn’t holding out and trying to make it public.
But it is public. It’s everywhere. So if he really was unhappy he doesn’t have to show up. He doesn’t have to wear the shield or the silver and black.
But he would. That’s the way he rolls. He’s the type of guy that will do whatever he can to make sure the Raiders get the best possible return.
Which is also why a contender should be trading for him.
I disagree. Making something like this public is the worst thing for the Silver and Black. Now a GM that wants to trade for him knows he may not be happy and not want to play for the Raiders therefore meaning the Raiders may take a lower offer. Plus teams may also offer less because what happens if the team he’s traded to doesn’t win. Will he and his agent cause a stir? Cause drama too?
If this was not public and the Raiders were shopping him silently, teams would be more inclined to offer more IMO.
Be smart. Trade and build a sustainable team for once.
Raiders need draft capital more than they need Crosby. The team is years away from being competitive in one of the best divisions in the NFL. Trade him and move on.
The Broncos were very bad for a long time before this season and the Chargers and Chiefs looked very ordinary by their standards. Tides turn.
Denver and LAC are playoff teams. KC is no easy out as long as Mahommes is there. Raiders won’t be like the Patriots, going from 4-13 to 13-4 anytime soon.
I disagree 100% . As a lifelong Raider fan I’ve seen what my team has done with draft picks. I’d rather keep Maxx knowing what I have. I don’t want a Robert Gallery or a Damien Arnett
Most of the damage was done when Gruden was in the draft room. He wanted a certain type of player, I think mostly SEC. My theory is that he left the room after the 2nd round and let the professionals handle it after that.
Sure, but those drafts were in the past by different GMs. By the time Raiders are competitive Crosby will be aged out.
100%. Smart fans know this reality. Smart teams move on and remake their teams.
But in all seriousness we don’t know in today’s NFL. Just over the past two seasons look at some of the teams we thought wouldn’t be “competitive “. Panthers, Jags, Pats, Seahawks, Colts, bears, commanders. That’s just off the top of my head. Those teams over the last two seasons not very may picked to win the division or get into the playoffs or both. Today’s NFL is vastly changing and different. I’m
Not saying the Raiders are going to turn it around overnight but in 2021 I didn’t anticipate the Raiders making the playoffs and they did. Things can happen. The league changes and the Raiders have the 2nd most cap space. Drafting Mendoza and not have to pay a franchise QB means they can spend elsewhere. O-line, CBs, LBs, WR. The is the first time in a very long time as a Raider fan that I have a glimmer of hope. I’m not delusional. I said that Pete , AP and even McDaniels couldn’t right this ship. The last time I’ve had this much hope was Gruden 1.0.
If they had draft capital, they can either use it to acquire high end players, or draft more high round picks. Means a lot more money available to sign top FAs. You need 53 players
I‘d think he will get more in a trade than Parsons did. The timing of that trade really hurt Dallas‘ ability to garner more than 2-3 teams who could fit Jerry‘s demands. If this is done before the draft (or even before free agency), despite his age, I could see 3 1st rounders being on the table.
You’re delusional. Max is older and has been injured in the past two seasons. If that’s what the raider are asking that’s not what they’ll get
Agree. No one is giving up two first round picks for this guy.
Lol
PFFF what!? SMH
most delusional commenter here never disappoints
You‘re welcome.
So Detroit. About that pass rusher opposite Hutchingson
Tyleik Williams
Isaac TeSlaa
Josh Pascal (contract tolled due to being in Nfi list his first year I guess? So he’s under contract for 2026 and free agent in 2027)
2026 1st at #17
2027 1st
Way too much.
Yeah TeSlaa 16 catches and Pascal 5 sacks in 3 years missing all last year as a former 2nd rounder are real needle movers that significantly impact the deal
Clark (37th) DT, Williams (50th)
GBs pick 20th, Detroits pick 17th
2027 1st likely late 20s, 2027 1st likely late 20s
Green Bay handed Parsons as whopping 4 year 188 mill contract with 136 mill guaranteed
Crosby is already attached to a 3 year 106.5 mill deal 91.5 mill guaranteed that runs through 2029.
Definitely way too much when you compare the details more closely.
I agree with Oofff, but a #17, TeSlaa, and Williams is a very good start. The 2027 #1 pick is not necessary. Something lower would be fine.
I was going off parsons like trade which netted the cowboys
Kenny Clark
The 20th pick in 2026
A 2027 1st rounder
Clark finished as the 37th DT this year
Williams finished 50th
Figured a TeSlaa and Pascal on a 1 year deal makes up for that difference, not like Pascal has much trade value being a former second round pick who has 5 sacks and didn’t play last year.
But Clark, 20th, and 2027 1st is about as comparable as Williams, 17th, 2027, TeSlaa and a throw in like Pascal can get
Clark was already expensive. The first round picks were delayed a year. Williams has three rookie contract years plus a fifth year option left. They spent three third round picks on TeSlaa a year ago, he looked promising, anbd he has three very cheap years left. And those firsts would start this offseason. You suggested a MUCH bigger deal than the Parsons contract.
Considering Crosby is making about 60- 80 million less than Parsons is that would definitely be reflected in the price to acquire him.
Green Bay gave up Clark’s 2 year contract and 2 1sts and paid parsons 188 mill
Giving up 4 years of Williams and 2 1sts for Crosby already making 113 million is comparable because of the significant difference between Parsons and Crosbys contract
Crosby is also three years older at the time of the trade.
And still making 1.5- 2 years less in salary when you look at Parsons contract. The price is fair. Parsons hits also escalate while Crosbys decrease.
Idk if they are 3 years apart
Free agency says Crosby is 32 in 2029 and Parsons is 30 in 2029. Probably 2 and some change
Now add a year because Parsons was traded last year and we’re comparing trade packages. Parsons played his whole first season with the Packers at 26 years old. Crosby will play his whole next season at 29. And I doubt Crosby would be with a new team for too long before he got an updated contract.
And once again, the Raiders would be getting those two first round picks a whole offseason earlier than the Cowboys got theirs, which is a big value add. And Williams and TeSlaa with their contracts are much, much more valuable right now than Kenny Clark was with his a year ago.
Yup comparing trade packages
Parsons and 188 mill for 3 years or Clark at 64 mill, 2026 1st coming in at 20th overall, a 2027th first
Crosby and 113 mill for 4 years of Williams, 2026 1st coming in at 17th overall, a 2027 1st, a 3 years of TeSlaa catching 16 balls for 250 yards last year, and 1 year of a failed former 2nd round pass rusher in Pascal.
It’s comparable.
Crosby is older and making less. The difference between Parsons contract and Crosbys is 1.5-2 years worth of paying Parsons which accounts for age issues.
Clark was the better DT ranking higher (37) than Williams (50). So Raiders are getting a lesser player even if cheaper which accounts for the different in price (Clark finished among starter status while Williams finished among rotational status). TeSlaa and Pascal aren’t needle movers one way or the other. Raiders are just devoid of talent and could take a chance on both.
When the trade happens is irrelevant Dallas walked away with 3 years of Clark, 2 1sts, one which became 20th overall in this years draft.
What Dallas received is comparable to what the Raiders would receive even if it happens a year later.
When the trade absolutely matters. Having first round picks this year and next year is more valuable than having them next year and the year after.
Judging TeSlaa strictly by his rookie stats is silly. He was in a stacked offense, was seen as a project coming in, and he clearly flashed. He could allow Detroit to move on from Williams in a year, for instance.
The contract stuff is huge. If Williams and TeSlaa can be decent starters the last two years of their rookie deals, that’s far more valuable than Clark.
And all of this stuff especially matters to Detroit, who have to pay a lot of people on that roster. They need low cost regulars to make it all work.
I don’t know how to better explain that you’re suggesting a much bigger package, even if you refuse to process it.
Doesn’t matter all that much.
The difference in contract price off sets the difference in age issue
What’s left is looking at the return
Cowboys got the better DT for 3 years
Raiders get the lesser DT for 4 years
The 2026 picks are comparable 3 spots apart at 17. DET 20 GB
The 2027 picks should both be 20+ as both are probably playoff bound next season
It’s a comparable deal on paper when all facts are presented
TeSlaa and Paschal aren’t of much value more like fliers if anything
Detroit having to pay people is a separate issue. Packers also had to pay people
LT Walker
WR Doubs
LB Walker
OL Ryan
Your whole defense is Crosbys age which has been explained to you several times that his contract reflects the difference in age and his contract gets cheaper while parsons gets more expensive making it a moot point
You’ve got nothing and it constantly shows, you’re arguing with failed points. You just don’t seem to realize what everyone else noticed already
Even if you cancel out the age difference and the contract difference (which is ignoring the likelihood that Crosby gets a new deal in the next two years), you’re still leaving out some important factors.
1) The Cowboys do not realistically have Clark for three years. He’s got a $20 million cap hit each of the next two years, he has zero guarantees left, and they now have two other highly paid DTs. He might even be cut this offseason.
2) Williams will cost about 75% as much over the next three years combined as Clark will cost for this year. And given that Williams is about to turn 23 and Clark turns 31 this year, it wouldn’t surprise anyone if Williams was better than Clark in the next year or two.
3) Your insistence on valuing TeSlaa as a throw-in worth effectively nothing makes absolutely no sense. He looked very good in limited action.
And those people you’re talking about Green Bay needing to pay aren’t nearly as pricey as Detroit’s big contracts.
1. You’re assuming something that hasn’t happened – Crosby new deal. He could also not get a new deal or rework his contract to create cap room which negates your whole needs to pay people complaint as well
2. He’s currently not better. He could also just plain suck and be a rotational player all his career. His value is what his value is now at time of trade. Same with Clark.
3. 15 catches 250 yards he’s a big bodied red zone target send him deep let Amon ra and Williams work underneath he’s a 4th wr he may develop into a solid 3.
4. Both detroit and gb don’t have pricey free agents in 2026
Detroit has Reader Anzalone Muhammad
Green Bay has LT Walker WR Doubs LB Walker and OL Ryan
The big ticket free agents don’t start to hit for both until 2027
Detroit LaPorta Branch
Green Bay Jenkins, Reed, Wyatt, Nixon, Watson, Kraft
You worrying about Detroit acquiring Crosby and the financial implications of other deals but not mentioning the financial implications of Green Bay acquiring and paying parsons in the same way just shows your lack of preparation.
For reference in 2028 Detroit would pay these guys 2 years after the Crosby trade. Same way Green Bay has to pay their 2027 class 2 years after the parsons trade.
Decker, Gibbs, Campbell, Reed, Mahogany
Detroit is currently over the cap for next year and they need to work out a new deal with Goff to adjust. They will also likely begin extending guys from their 2023 class this offseason. Teams don’t wait until free agency to extend all their core players. Detroit certainly doesn’t. And they clearly don’t view TeSlaa the way you do.
Green Bay likely cuts Jenkins this offseason.
And Williams has value as a guy who might only turn out to be a rotational player on a rookie deal. Those guys are valuable.
Two firsts and Williams would be a plenty equivalent trade to the Parsons trade. I’d say it’s an even better package, especially since the picks collect earlier.
Like every off season guys restructure guys get cut. I’m sure Detroit has guys they can cut like Jenkins
Happens every year every off season
They don’t actually need to pay any of their current free agents which is a good thing
Same with the packers, they’re also currently over too
Williams has three rookie contract years plus a fifth year option left. They spent three third round picks on TeSlaa a year ago, he looked promising, anbd he has three very cheap years left.
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That’s about where I am on this deal. I’ve been arguing for years that we need a better IDL and that’s Williams. TeSlaa looks legit to me. Had the Lions not had some good receiving options, he might’ve had a bigger role.
In retrospect, I’d take those two guys + the #1.
It’s hard for me to see the 28 year old Crosby getting more than the 26 year old Parsons, even with the botched execution by Dallas. Parsons got a new deal, which, despite being enormous, still allowed his new team control over payout structure. Crosby is going to need a restructure if the team wants to move things around. Maybe that could be good, in his case, as he probably won’t demand as much as some others would, but I think that GMs prefer anything other than an existing contract. But that’s just my speculation.
Crosby’s going to fetch a lot in a trade. I just think that the perception of him right now at 28 is closer to the end of his prime than the perception of Parsons last year at 26 as being right in the middle of it. It might not seem like much, but Parsons had four more years until 30, which is twice as much as Crosby does with two. You could have Parsons on a high level for all of his prime, whereas with Crosby, you know you’re going to have to pay for a couple of years past it. It certainly won’t mean that Crosby won’t get a good return, it just means comparatively that it probably won’t be as much.
The timing of the deal is key. There will be several teams competing for Crosby if he is available. You are right he won‘t come cheap. Perhaps 2 1s and a 2 or 3 is more likely. But as long as he is dealt before the draft, I‘d be stunned if it wasn‘t at least 2 1s.
So you went from seeing 3 1st rounders, then people laughed at you, so you are down to 2 1st rounders……got it.
Honestly, I don‘t think 3 1sts is out of the question for that contract. It‘s a deal in the current market. Yes, even at his age and injury history. Shopping someone in February is waaaaay better for the selling team than in August.
But I could also see 2 1s and a day 2 pick because of his injury history and being 28.
Assuming the Raiders would want to move him out of the conference, the 49ers and Jags are the teams that are competitive yet desperately need pass rush upgrades. Both would have to do some cap restructures to make this deal work though.
Raiders need to chill out and look to the 2027 draft. You use Crosby if necessary to move up and get your franchise quarterback if that’s Manning or Moore after next year. Trading Crosby for a couple mid 20 1st round picks and others are not going to change the fact your QB sucks.
Are you say that the Raiders will not be using the first overall pick on Mendoza or are you saying Mendoza is a bust?
Regardless of what that guy is saying Raiders need to pick Mendoza. No way would I wait till next year and possibly have to trade up and hope a team doesn’t jump in front of you etc. all the Raiders have to do this year is turn in a card to the NFL and they possibly…possibly have a QB for a long time.
Well, here’s where Brady being involved matters to the Raiders…his knowledge, eyes, and ears will matter…if he thinks Mendoza is a “franchise” guy, then use this years #1 on him…if not, pick a defensive stud probable starter and begin the rebuild….the 27 draft has much better QB options than this 26 draft…after all who knows the QB position better than the GOAT!
If we decide Mendoza is not the guy, the pick will be traded, not used on defense.
And Brady the manager and GM and draft expert knows this how?
Which Brady? Me or my evil twin?
If Moore and Manning were in this draft the best QB is still Mendoza so…
I think there are three good 2027 QBs. With the right trade, we will get one of them, plus an abundance of other picks.
Bengals need to tag and trade Henderson, and include a couple of second rounders for Crosby. Why? Crosby is signed for 2 more years and it would be a pretty even up trade. Difference between the two? Hendrickson basically sat out training camp and ended up with the same deal they offered him before training camp. Then tries to go out and play without any conditioning and we see how that worked out. Crosby doesn’t quit he’s out there wether he’s sad, glad or mad. Hendrickson let his teammates down because he wasn’t fully committed even though he had a signed contract already. I’d take Crosby in a heartbeat over Trey Hendrickson. This is my opinion, and mine only, do don’t have an stroke thinking about it.
If Mike Brown is too cheap to pay Hendrickson, what makes you think he would want to pay a similarly big number to Crosby?
If he was to cheap to pay Hendrickson then he would be on another team. Crosby is signed for two more years already. Hendrickson wanted to skip training camp. Otherwise, why would he sign for the same money after training camp closed. Worked out really well for him, no conditioning and he gets hurt. I think Hendrickson started believing his own press and thought he could force Mike Brown to do something. Doesn’t work, just ask Carson Palmer. Was the defense better with Hendrickson out there, arguably no. The defense was so porous the other teams just ran to the other side. I would tag and trade him, but that’s just my opinion.
Beat that dead horse to make sure there’s a daily article about nothing 🙄
Both Bradley Chubb and Frank Clark fetched first-round picks
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It’s worth noting that both #1’s were #29 picks. That’s barely a 1st rounder.
Barely a 1st rounder is still a first rounder. The pick has some value to it. Whether you use it to trade up or if a team wants to trade back into the first round to secure that 5th year option.
But would you rather two #29s, or Washington’s #7?
LV can want that big haul, but I dont see them getting it. For starters, all of the recent larger pass rush trades I can remember have been right around the players age 26 seasons (Parsons, Chubb, Mack, Clark, and Allen). Maxx will be playing his age 29 season this year.
Parsons and Mack were right around the start of the season. Clark & Allen were around the draft. And Chubb was at the TD.
Parsons got two 1sts and Clark.
Mack, a 2nd, and 5th got them two 1sts, a 3rd, and 6th.
Clark and a 3rd swap got a 1st and 2nd.
Allen and a 6th swap got a 1st and two 3rds.
Chubb got a 1st and 4th.
Parsons trade I believe could’ve gotten more if it was before the draft, AND if DAL didn’t insist on receiving a DL in the return as well. However, imo, they would’ve gotten a 2nd at the very best instead of Clark if they would’ve gone that route.
IMO LV gets something like the Mack package, in which they get two 1sts but the second one is diminished because they give up better picks later on. OR they get a 1st and POSSIBLY two day 2 picks (just because of Maxx’s age idk if they get two day 2 picks, or one and like a 4th). Regardless, I think they should cash in on him now. They’ve only had one winning season while Maxx has been there anyways and his trade value is only decreasing. Draft Mendoza. Use the picks from this trade to hopefully get better at other areas.
He is older and not as good as Parsons. Thus he will not get a similar package.
True, but a heck of a lot cheaper.
Parsons deal isn’t all that bad until year 4 if you look at cap hit % by year.
Cowboys should trade a 1st, a 3rd and sign n trade Pickens so Mendoza has another weapon.
Trade Crosby for a first and a 3rd then trade the number 1 pick to the dolphins for 11th pick and a 3rd this year and a first next year I dont think Mendoza is the guy and the raiders need much more than a middle of the road QB