What we heard right before the Super Bowl made it sound like a Carson Wentz trade was imminent, but here on February 16th Wentz is still a member of the Eagles. In a recent piece, Albert Breer of SI.com broke down a few of the reasons why things are lagging. 
For starters, Breer writes that Philly’s steep asking price caused several potentially interested teams to “drop out of the running altogether.” In addition to his poor play last year, Breer also notes that a “less-talked-about problem is the growing reputation Wentz has of not reacting well to hard coaching.” Stuff like that has been hinted at the past couple years, but it sounds like it’s a full-blown issue at this point.
In an interview with Colin Cowherd of Fox Sports, Breer added that he believes the Bears are the “front runner” as of the beginning of this week. “It’s pretty clear at this point the Bears have pushed harder than the Colts to get Carson Wentz. The Eagles are probably going to get their best return for Carson Wentz from Chicago,” Breer said.
Breer writes that he doesn’t think the Eagles will get a first-round pick, unless there are compounding factors like salary dumps or other picks going back to the trade partner. Both Indy and Chicago’s staffs have ties to Wentz, and the Bears just recently promoted his former quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo.
In recent days we’ve heard that both the Broncos and Patriots aren’t interested in Wentz, and there aren’t really any known suitors other than the Colts or Bears.
In the name of all that is good, please Bears, do not go after Wentz.
I’m not a Bears fan but as an outsider’s perspective, this seems 100% like a typical Bears move.
I am a Bears fan and your perspective is 100% accurate. F’ing brutal.
Please in the name of all that is good, please Bears, trade for Wentz so you will suck for the next 5 years. GO LIONS!
said the team stuck with Goff for the foreseeable future…..
Not really. After this season, they can cut him and he’s only $15 million in dead cap money for 2022. Or they can cut him after 2022 and they’re home free.
So, if he’s bad, he’s only there for one or two years tops. Not bad considering the picks they got.
Picks do you no good if your team can’t draft. Let me guess, THIS is the management team that will finally do it?
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
-Wayne Gretzky”
-Michael Scott
There is no front runners in this , only the biggest loser
Your statement perfectly sums up the entire Carson Wentz situation. No front runners, whoever wins is the biggest loser. That includes if Wentz is stuck in Philly, then they become the biggest loser. If Indy is offering 2 second round picks and will take the contract ….. He should already be looking for houses Indianapolis. Oh wait, check that, houses in Carmel, Indiana or Fishers, Indiana. The burbs.
They should be lucky to get 2 2nds.. take that and run to rid themselves of his contract
Case and Nagy surviving on borrowed time at this point. I don’t see another option for them here. It’s either wentz or Winston on a must win season!
Why would a franchise allow Pace and Nagy, two guys on their last legs, to take on Carson Wentz and his contract after the past two seasons he has had? Why would a franchise risk being set back for 5 years for two guys who won’t be on the payroll a year from now?
Because the bears front office is a mom and pop franchise that cares more about feelings than it does about wins.
Best comment on here, it’s really that simple. And sad
It’s about money. As long as they make the playoffs every 5 years or so, Bears fans will keep coming back. They buy jerseys, tune in for games and buy expensive season tickets. McCaskeys aren’t the fools people think they are.
They already made that decision by keeping Case and Nagy for another year
They can get rid of Wentz after 2 years. This is the only way Nagy and Pace can survive. It all depends on DeFelippo.
So you have one “journalist” telling another “journalist” this is the truth. Yea I’m sure believing all that.
I don’t like this narrative about “hard coaching” any coaching that doesn’t get the best result from the player is not good coaching. It is an old-school cop out to just say that the player couldn’t handle it. It is just as true that the coach couldn’t handle it. The result is the judge and when one side fails the team fails.
But doesn’t that conflict with the “Wentz sucks!” take that’s just so easy for commenters to spout out like it makes them look smart?
Do you have a counter-argument to it? It’s pretty hard to lead the league in sacks and INT’s (when you only play in 12 games and were pulled in another) if you don’t suck.
I suppose that’s what makes it so easy for commentators to spout out.
Yes, there is a decent argument.
The argument is that those “accomplishments” occurred in a single year. That single year also saw some of the absolute worst organizational chaos anyone has ever seen. If you could name a position group that played well for the Eagles, go ahead, but we all know that none did. The coach was fired not just for football failures, but for team management blunders. The offensive line was hideous. The playcalling was worse. The receivers were nonexistent. Wentz was bad. That season is not representative of his expected abilities.
The Eagles were truly special in how awful they were last year. Wentz was the most visible and easily observable part of that, but he was hardly the driving reason behind it, which is why most commenters are blaming him. No matter who your QB is, you need some kind of stability around him. There was none in any area in Philly.
The way people talk about Wentz-as if he’s Jamarcus Russell-is lazy. There are very valid reasons to expect him to at least play competently for a new team, and people are acting as if that’s impossible. A second rounder and possibly a lower pick is not a high price to pay for that return.
Here’s the deal , any team in the Carson Wentz sweepstakes can be discarded from any real threat. If you only want to flirt with the playoffs and do nothing upon arrival , then fine but why bother? When you know you have to compete with the likes of Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Allan , Wilson .., you can’t be “ for real” if your rolling with Wentz.
Wouldn’t the Bears be better off keeping their picks and signing a FA like Dalton or Fitzpatrick instead? Is Wentz really that much better than any QBs on the open market? But then again, Ryan ‘Prodigy’ Pace probably has some keen insight imperceptible to us regular folk
Exactly. And correct
agree. Possibly even draft a QB to go with one of them.
Rumor is the Colts offered two 2nd’s and one 5th. That’s an awfully generous off. Eagles are dumb for not taking it.
After hiring Sirianni, it would be massive disappointment to trade Wentz. I think that they still think that they can lure him back.
If the Bears had traded with the Raiders for Carr instead of Mack….
They would have a ring by now.
The Bears could’ve signed Tom Brady. Oops.
Bears could have drafted Watson. Bigger Oops since signing Tom was predicated on him wanting to come to Chicago.
Not really. Realistically he wasn’t coming over here over TB.
Have the Bears given up on Trubisky completely?
Is Wentz an improvement over Trubisky? You’re going to let the GM who traded up to draft Trubisky, and bypassed Mahomes and Watson, pick your next QB? Huh, okay. What could go wrong?
I get that some coaches might think he can turn it around, but why would any team want to trade something of value and take on his contract for a big question mark just doesn’t make sense.
Why would anyone take on this thinned skinned locker room cancer and have to get up picks?
The Eagles should be GIVING picks to someone in order to take the Wentz problem off their hands. The performance risk is huge and the salary drain is a given, thus he’s worth less than zero at this point.
It’s not like you trade for Wentz and you’ve got an affordable QB. You still have a bloated contract and a dude that’s been broken since he dove for the endzone in 2017-18. If I’m some kinda QB whisperer I give an incentive laden deal to Jameis Winston. I pick up Teddy Bridgewater (if cut). I take a hard look at Cam Netwon. If you can’t put offensive weapons around any QB bc you’ve allocated too much $ to him, then what’s the point? Affordable QB, load the team with weapons and defense. That’s a good formula.
This is the issue with trying to trade someone when their value is viewed as rock bottom and you cause chaos in the the organization. Recency bias takes over and teams know you need to get rid of him because he doesn’t want to be there.. so why pay more than they need too. I’m certainly not a wentz guy but there was one point where I thought he could do no wrong and made plays week in week out that never seen before, but then the acl happened. And 14 offense line groups in 16 weeks. Every top offense weapon hurt, or downgraded between djack, Ertz, sanders, goddert, reagor all out for periods of time. Hurts getting drafted in 2nd round and you have a recipe for disaster with all put together. I think fans of other teams downgrade him a little more than he should be… with the right team I think he could be a very good qb again with a new scenery and confidence back.. but philly created this mess and they won’t get back what they should. And teams know this
They would love to offer Dak a contract but if pace want Wentz his pick I lick Mitch but Foles would be a great trade plus a 3rd this year a second n’5th next season Philly would go for that salary dump. Plus get a QB they love to tutor Love there starter last year.
This will sound crazy and stupid but, welcome to the world of being a Bears fan. I don’t believe Mitch is top 15 QB. I also don’t believe Mitch is a bottom a bottom 5 QB. His first season under Fox was basically garbage. Fox didn’t want a QB. Luckily, the next season, he received the proper development. He should have been a playoff winning QB if it wasn’t for that Bible thumping garbage kicker. In my life, 39 yrs, the Bears have always had a good kicker. Maybe a season or two they didn’t. So the fact a kicker was the reason and not our QB is funny. Anyways, I’m not sure how many Bears fans watched that game. He had an excellent game with an outstanding, Joe Montana esque final drive. If it was Joe it would’ve ended in a TD. I digress. He got no support from local media for putting his team in a position for victory. In fact, total opposite. After that game the campaign to run him outta town continued. With all due respect his 2nd season, de facto rookie season, was pretty good. Since the Bears had a very good defense, just traded the farm for Mack as well, they had to play Mitch because he was the best option. Mitch was a developmental QB. He only started 12 games in college. Anyways, because Nagy’s arrogance Mitch regressed. When he started to play the best stretch of football in his career there were two-factors. 1, pressure was off. 2 Nagy wasn’t calling plays. Mitch wasn’t the problem. It was the guy calling plays. It was our front office that did nothing to find an o-line. Most important thing in football, imo, is a good QB and hitting on your first 3 rounds of picks. Especially if you’re drafting in the top 10.
Wentz could be our best option. To the Bears but it’s fools gold. All we’ll be doing is pushing the team back further. We have a competent QB that doesn’t excel under an arrogant coach’s system. Stop trying to force him into your system. Let him excel under a Mitch system. Fu***ng wild concept. Instead of just picking up his 5th yr. The stupidity of thinking we’d magically find a QB in FA. Develop a later 1st rd pick or deeper in the draft. So now, the Bears basically have cost the fans of seeing A-Rob come back because if they want to do the right thing and franchise Mitch. What they will do, franchise A-Rob, let Mitch walk and trade our 2nd and 4th this yr and 1st next yr. We’ll get Wentz, the Eagles 3rd and a conditional pick in 2022. Afterwards, A-Rob is pissed and walks after next yr. The rumors come true about Wentz. If they aren’t necessarily true, Chicago media will make sure the fans think it is truth. Bears fans will continue to piss and moan that we could’ve had Mahomes or Watson. Oh, we still won’t have a QB. If Mitch would’ve won a Super Bowl fans would have still been saying, Mahomes would’ve threw for 325yds while Mitch had 275.
As I finish this rant, I’m a fan of winning. In this case that’s Mitch. Sure the hell wasn’t the jerkoff Foles we signed away from Philly. Let’s learn from our mistakes. 1 yr of Mitch or 4 more yrs of terrible. If I had to guess, knowing the Bears, door #2 will be the route…
This will sound crazy and stupid but, welcome to the world of being a Bears fan. I don’t believe Mitch is top 15 QB. I also don’t believe Mitch is a bottom a bottom 5 QB. His first season under Fox was basically garbage. Fox didn’t want a QB. Luckily, the next season, he received the proper development. He should have been a playoff winning QB if it wasn’t for that Bible thumping garbage kicker. In my life, 39 yrs, the Bears have always had a good kicker. Maybe a season or two they didn’t. So the fact a kicker was the reason and not our QB is funny. Anyways, I’m not sure how many Bears fans watched that game. He had an excellent game with an outstanding, Joe Montana esque final drive. If it was Joe it would’ve ended in a TD. I digress. He got no support from local media for putting his team in a position for victory. In fact, total opposite. After that game the campaign to run him outta town continued. With all due respect his 2nd season, de facto rookie season, was pretty good. Since the Bears had a very good defense, just traded the farm for Mack as well, they had to play Mitch because he was the best option. Mitch was a developmental QB. He only started 12 games in college. Anyways, because Nagy’s arrogance Mitch regressed. When he started to play the best stretch of football in his career there were two-factors. 1, pressure was off. 2 Nagy wasn’t calling plays. Mitch wasn’t the problem. It was the guy calling plays. It was our front office that did nothing to find an o-line. Most important thing in football, imo, is a good QB and hitting on your first 3 rounds of picks. Especially if you’re drafting in the top 10.
Wentz could be our best option. To the Bears but it’s fools gold. All we’ll be doing is pushing the team back further. We have a competent QB that doesn’t excel under an arrogant coach’s system. Stop trying to force him into your system. Let him excel under a Mitch system. Fu***ng wild concept. Instead of just picking up his 5th yr. The stupidity of thinking we’d magically find a QB in FA. Develop a later 1st rd pick or deeper in the draft. So now, the Bears basically have cost the fans of seeing A-Rob come back because if they want to do the right thing and franchise Mitch. What they will do, franchise A-Rob, let Mitch walk and trade our 2nd and 4th this yr and 1st next yr. We’ll get Wentz, the Eagles 3rd and a conditional pick in 2022. Afterwards, A-Rob is pissed and walks after next yr. The rumors come true about Wentz. If they aren’t necessarily true, Chicago media will make sure the fans think it is truth. Bears fans will continue to piss and moan that we could’ve had Mahomes or Watson. Oh, we still won’t have a QB. If Mitch would’ve won a Super Bowl fans would have still been saying, Mahomes would’ve threw for 325yds while Mitch had 275.
As I finish this rant, I’m a fan of winning. In this case that’s Mitch. Sure the hell wasn’t the jerkoff Foles we signed away from Philly. Let’s learn from our mistakes. 1 yr of Mitch or 4 more yrs of terrible. If I had to guess, knowing the Bears, door #2 will be the route…
Not excited about Wentz becoming a Bear but the franchise has a long history of evidence that reveals they simply have no idea about how to draft QB talent. Hopefully he won’t be as big a bust as Mike Glennon was.
If the bears are going to trade for a QB at least go all in and try to get Watson. I’ve been a bears fan for 25 years, and I’ve never seen a great QB here in all that time. The best QB I’ve seen them have is Cutler, and that is sad. Watson has a legit shot to be great.
He’s not very good because he’s been hit a lot. If he goes somewhere where with a running game and a good OL he will be fine. Indy is the best landing spot for him.
I would rather Mitch Trubisky.