Three weeks away from the draft, the Eagles and Saints made a deal that will shake up the middle of this year’s first round while arming Philadelphia with an additional Round 1 choice in 2023.
The Eagles dealt into their first-round surplus Monday, sending the Saints their Nos. 16 and 19 overall picks in a deal that will provide them with New Orleans’ 2023 first-rounder. Philly, which entered the draft with three first-rounders from No. 15 to No. 19, now holds two first-rounders. The Saints do as well. This gives the Eagles two first-round picks in the next two drafts.
With the dust settled, here is how the full trade looks:
Eagles receive:
- No. 18 in 2022
- No. 101
- No. 237
- The Saints’ 2023 first-round pick
- The Saints’ 2024 second-round pick
Saints receive:
- No. 16 in 2022 (from Colts via Eagles)
- No. 19
- No. 194
New Orleans now has additional ammo in this year’s draft, while Philly can potentially plan for a move in a 2023 draft that is expected to feature a better crop of quarterbacks. This year’s group has not generated much buzz, at least compared to most years, and it points to the Eagles giving Jalen Hurts another audition year. The Eagles pursued Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson but did not get far in either derby. Howie Roseman‘s team, which acquired 2022 first-rounders from the Colts and Dolphins last year, can take a more methodical approach over the next two drafts rather than being the rare team to make three first-round picks in one draft.
Next year’s draft could feature Heisman winner Bryce Young, Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud, Florida’s Anthony Richardson. Hurts fared decently in his first full-season audition, driving the Eagles’ No. 1-ranked rushing attack and accounting for 26 touchdowns (16 passing) and nearly 4,000 yards. This move will allow the Eagles to keep their options open, while it equips the Saints with a second first-rounder this year. Eight teams have multiple first-rounders in this month’s draft.
With the Eagles now picking at Nos. 15 and 18 in Round 1, the Saints slid up two spots from their No. 18 position. The Saints re-signed Jameis Winston on a two-year deal, but they do not exactly have their quarterback position checked off long-term. That makes this swap more interesting on New Orleans’ end. Obtaining a second first-rounder could provide a bridge to the Saints trading up again for one of this year’s top two passers, a la the Bills’ Josh Allen climb in 2018, but no member of this year’s QB class has generated considerable interest just yet.
Monday’s move does allow the opportunity for the Saints to acquire a cost-controlled starter. Their previous draft with two first-rounders — 2017, when Marshon Lattimore and Ryan Ramczyk went to New Orleans — had a significant effect on the team’s trajectory.
Howie fleeced the Saints. I don’t see the Saints being very good, so the 2023 first could be very high.
Seems pretty fair so far. I don’t think this quite falls into the “fleeced” category, since neither team seems to have been set back too much.
If you say 18 and 19 are a wash and the 6th and 7th, the Eagles traded the 16th overall pick for a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. I’d say that’s a fleece.
Not only a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but that 1st from NO next year will very likely be a top 10 pick.
Not likely thanks to the 1st rounder we sent this this year which makes them a better team and drops that top 10 down much later.
Who is it you’re afraid the Saints will draft that will make them a drastically better team as rookies?
Not everyone picks as poorly as Howie. Picks 16 and 19 should be plug and play starters, so their team will be improved.
Who is it you’re afraid will be such difference making plug and play rookie starters for the Saints?
Who dat?…..FIFY
Who is it that you’re afraid of that would be there when Philly would’ve been on the clock and needing to plug their many holes?
That’s a separate issue. I think you have to make this pick for the extra draft capital and to push some to the future when you may want to make a bigger move. But I’m speaking yo the idea that these picks will make the Saints pick worse next year. I doubt they draft two guys whose rookie production comes close to offsetting the loss of Payton and Armstead.
What a moron you are kab. Saints field a top 5 defense and little holes on offense. Saints pick will be in the 20’s lol
Maye replacing Williams isn’t the right direction. As for holes on offense – your QB. Give him time, he’ll disappoint.
You mean like QB, receiver, and left tackle? Those are some big little holes.
And a rookie head coach who is not an Offensive Side Coach
Didn’t Dennis Allen coach the Raiders for a few years?
Who’s the MORON NOW ?
Lame comment
Saints will be better than the Eagles
Looks like a good deal for the Eagles. If Hurts doesn’t work out they are in good shape to draft a QB next year in what looks like a better year for QB’s.
If Hurts does work out the Eagles can totally reload with young talent if Howie doesn’t get too cute.
Also, if Hurts doesn’t work out, they could potentially have two top ten picks if the Saints falter as well.
Howie strikes again…fly eagles fly
Howie loves dealing picks before or on draft day. He can’t help himself Excellent deal. Bo one thought that the Eagles were going to use all three picks. They have received what could potentially be a very good 1st round pick in next year’s draft, and a day 2 pick in the 2024 draft.
This will not be the end of trading for the Eagles-only the beginning.
This reminds me of the draft pick trades I’d pull off in Madden. Love it!
Looks like the Saints want Bo Callahan
Nobody went to his birthday party…..
Bobby Boucher!
What a strange trade to see weeks before the draft. Fun!
It leads me to believe that neither New Orleans nor Philadelphia is done with pre-draft trading.
Golly, I’d hope there’d be players involved at some point if they’re trading picks before the draft even starts.
Who is it you’re afraid of that they might trade?
I think the eagles came out on top
You can look at it two ways.
1. The eagles started today with 4 first round picks in the next two years. They leave today with 4 first round picks in the next two years plus a second and third round pick.
Or
2. The eagles started today with 5 picks in the first 100 picks. They leave today with 5 picks in the first 101 picks plus a future first and second round pick.
It’s not necessarily a bad deal for the saints as it’s a straight draft swap so who each team picks matters but if the saints have a down year, I’m sure they would rather have a top 10 next year than number 16 this year. If the saints make the playoffs and find a stud with their pick this month, then they will be happy because making the playoffs will make next years pick later than 16.
Trading a future first and second for a first this year when you don’t even know who will be on the board is bananas.
Amateur hour. I think we’re seeing 2 soon to be unemployed GMs trading guesses for guesses.
I don’t see why Roseman shouldn’t make this trade.
Agreed…Howie just signed a 3-year extension, so he’s nowhere close to “soon to be unemployed”.
Trading picks for veterans has merit but swapping picks just to have a new place in line for getting a lottery ticket is silly.
Roseman traded for more places in more lines–including upping his value in drafts that likely have more high end talent in them. I don’t understand what you think he did wrong here.
His approach is similar to the guy who goes to the track and plays a 5 horse exacta box. Yeah, there’s probably going to be some sort of return on that bet but it’s not the best strategy for maximizing the investment.
That analogy doesn’t work at all.
Whose strategy are you afraid of?
He’s saying Howie will draft the wrong players in the 1st RD AGAIN
He certainly will. The later a high pick is and there are more variables, the worse Howie does. He can occasionally get a pick right if it’s high enough and the consensus points him in the right direction. But once it slides down later than the middle of the first round and into the second round he blows it.
If the Eagles only knew how to draft in the first round. Oh what could’ve been….
True. The Eagles need to plug so many holes they should’ve gone with their 3 1sts this year and not kick one down the road another year. Doing that or drafting a backup QB with a 2nd is what you when you’re stacked and ready to win ASAP, not when you have so many needs.
Eagles still a bet to trade back again for another 2023 1st.
That wouldn’t surprise me a bit, phillyballers.
Eagles made out very well with this trade.
Only if they use the picks wisely which history shows is far from a guarantee.
I hate you Howie roseman! I don’t care about 2023 draft, let alone the 2024 draft. if we were loaded with talent this would be a good trade, but we don’t so stop worrying about 2023 draft when you need to hit on your 2022 draft. If he screws up the 1st RD this year, he will set us back 3-4 easily
You’re the rare Eagles fan that doesn’t like this deal from what I’ve been reading on Facebook. The QB crop is supposed to be better in 2023 and now we’re sitting with two 2023 1st rounders. The 2nd round pick in 2024 is probably going to be included in some trade between now and April 2024.
see that’s the thing, who says that arming ourselves with the two picks in the first round in 2023 is going to convince a team that is in need of a quarterback themselves to pull a trade off with the Eagles so they lose the quarterback they want? it’s not like going to a store and buying something for $1. you have to have a team willing to trade down for you to be able to trade up.
It’s a bit of a gamble,but a gamble worth taking with New Orleans replacing Sean Payton and having Winston at qb.Winston had some success with Payton,but Allen is more of a defensive coach.That pick could end up anywhere,but shouldn’t slip that far down from 19,even if they do find their way to the playoffs.
Basically adding a 3rd this year,and a 2nd in 2024 for delaying 1 pick and swapping 194 for 237.
Yeah you are nuts this is a great trade for the Eagles.
It boils down to this. If Hurts becomes a top QB,they use the future picks to build around him. If he doesnt,they now have the ammo to move up for Bryce Young, or Stroud or whoever. Plus they pick up a third rounder this year and a 2024 2nd rounder. It’s not all about 2022 it’s about developing and improving and keeping options open.
They also push a decision on a fifth year option down 1 year.And they save a little cap immediately,by dropping 1 of those 1st down into the 3rd.
once again that’s the problem, if we don’t have a pick high enough to get Stroud or young or maybe even Henderson from Florida the teams above us are probably going to need quarterbacks Houston Detroit Pittsburgh Minnesota those teams will not trade back with the Eagles if they need a quarterback just because we have two first round picks next year. we had three first round picks this year and we couldn’t get a quarterback here. but my point is it’s not like the eagles can just say here is 2 1st Rd picks so give us young! we need a team high enough that doesn’t need a quarterback to trade down with us so we can move up to get those quarterbacks it’s no guarantee if we have two first round picks we’re going to be able to move up and that’s the problem with this
The Browns still needed a qb when they traded up for Wentz.
This doesn’t guarantee that they’ll be able to get a top qb next year,but it gives them more ammo to get up top if the opportunity is there.If the Eagles or Saints,and those other qb needy teams finish in similar spots,and Jacksonville is the team with the top spot,we’ll be better prepared to make the move.
It’s nice to have 1st round leverage if you need a QB, but far too many 1st round picks turn out to be expensive nothings thus it might make sense to get two or three cheaper draftees by moving back into the second round.
They gave all of that to move up 2 places???
What
Read again. They added a second first round pick this year while giving up their one next year. It wasn’t THAT insane.
Saints trying to get enough ammo to move ahead of CAR and SEA?
Pretty fair trade. Usually have to give a 1 & 3 to move up a few spots in the first (see philly-dallas trade just last year). So that would be the Saints getting 16 for 18 & 101 (philly-dallas trade was 10 for 12 & 84). Also picks for the current year that are already known tend to hold more value than a future pick which explains why the Saints included the 2nd all the way in 2024. So that accounts for the Saints getting 19 & 194 for ’23 1st, ’24 2nd, & 237.
NOLA could easily have a bad season and their ’23 1st could end up top 12 or so. They did lose Payton, Armstead, & their secondary took a hit. However, Armstead only played in half the games this past year, so not sure if losing him all of the upcoming season will hurt AS BAD. They just finished 9-8 with mostly the same team. They have the same QB, RB, & WRs as last year, mostly same defense, and have the possibility of Thomas coming back next year which would undoubtedly help. They could draft OL & DB with their 2 1st this year and get a WR in the 2nd, and I think they could fill some other holes later and have just as good of a team. So then it comes down to how much losing Payton will come into play, but only time will tell for that.
plus remember weren’t the saints five and two at one point until jameis Winston got hurt then they plummeted?
And we also have the draft capital to ho get Metcalf and give Hurts a fighting chance. Devonta/Metcalf/ Goeddert? I’d go to war with that.
I like it for Philly. Just my amateur reckoning, but it feels like the #16 & #19 that NO gets is about the equivalent of Philly getting the #18 + NO’s #1 from 2023 (maybe #16?). Everything else is gravy.
And it also gives them a chance to see whether or not Hurts is growing into the position or not. I think Hurts has looked good enough to warrant another season (and maybe add a WR for him to throw to).
I expect the Eagles will trade for a veteran WR and draft a pass rusher and an interior lineman or CB in the first round and then have plenty of picks to move up later in the draft if they see someone they really like.