Things have gone from bad to worse in New England, with the Patriots currently sitting at the bottom of the AFC standings. This has naturally led to some chatter about Bill Belichick‘s job security and his future with the organization. Further, the Patriots’ record has led some NFL insiders to question if Belichick could be employed elsewhere next season.
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According to Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com, there’s “chatter in some league circles” that the Commanders could make a run at Belichick this upcoming offseason. While Florio cautions that this “isn’t a report that it will happen,” he said it’s a possibility that’s currently being thrown around the league.
While this might seem like a random pairing, Florio explains that the Belichick/Commanders connection is rooted in some logic. The Commanders signaled at the trade deadline that they’re looking to restart under new owner Josh Harris, and that could eventually lead to him cleaning house among coaches and executives. Who better to lead the next era of Washington football than one of the greatest coaches of all time?
For the Patriots, they’d be able to avoid a firing or “mutual parting,” with both of these routes likely resulting in them owing Belichick some money. Plus, assuming Belichick is still under contract for the 2024 campaign, the Commanders would be required to compensate the Patriots. For a team that’s lacking in future pieces and would be eyeing their own significant reset, extra draft assets would surely come in handy.
Of course, there are some complications surrounding this pursuit, and that’s why Florio notes that neither side would ever acknowledge the rumors. For starters, the Commanders couldn’t be hyper-focused on Belichick since they need to adhere to the Rooney Rule. This requires the organization to go through proper interviews for head coach and GM candidates.
The second sticking point is Belichick’s contract. We heard in late October that the head coach had recently signed an extension with the Patriots, and the terms of that contract could ultimately determine whether the legendary coach sticks around New England. As Albert Breer of SI.com notes, the reported “extension” may have actually been a simple reworking of the deal, and there’s a chance Belichick’s pact only lasts through the 2024 campaign. This wouldn’t be dissimilar to how the Patriots handled Tom Brady‘s exit; the team signed the quarterback to a reported extension, but the terms of the deal only increased the likelihood that Brady would end up leaving New England.
Breer believes we could be eyeing a similar scenario here. At the very least, the reporter believes Patriots owner Robert Kraft will have to make a difficult decision on Belichick this offseason. If the coach’s contract does truly last through the 2024 campaign, there’s little chance the organization will let Belichick head into next season with lame-duck status.
Florio also raised an eyebrow at the recent extension reports. The reporter says he assumed the report came from Belichick’s camp and was attended to cool rumors surrounding a potential firing. However, Florio is now wondering if the report was leaked by the Patriots, with the organization signaling that they’ll be the ones determining Belichick’s future destination.
It wasn’t very long ago that a Belichick firing would seem like a fantasy. The HC/GM built a pair of dynasty squads in his 23-plus years in New England, winning six Super Bowl rings while climbing up the all-time wins list for coaches. However, since Brady left, things haven’t been as rosy. The team went 7-9 during their first season without Brady, and they took a step forward with rookie Mac Jones in 2021, going 10-7 while returning to the playoffs.
However, the team has taken massive steps back in recent years. It didn’t seem like it could get much worse than last season’s 8-9 showing, but the Patriots have gotten off to a dreadful 2-6 start in 2023. Belichick has earned plenty of blame for the team’s current predicament, with the coach being called out for questionable coaching decisions, his handling of Jones and the quarterback position, and his subpar draft record in recent years.
As a die hard Redskins fan, Bill will never match Joe Gibbs as a HC. Joe figured out how to win w/o 1 HoF QB (3 super bowls in fact), Bill can’t win 1 division title w/o one.
Games changed since Gibbs days.
Joe Theismann was no slouch at GB. All it took was a hof rb in John Riggins.
Back in Gibbs day you needed a workhorse. Today nfl that’s not a thing.
To a degree, sure. But winning the trenches, turnover battle, & fewer penalties always will make an average team compete against any team. And Joe mastered that.
Same for his nemesis, Bill Parcells. He also took 3 non-HoF QB’s to the SB winning two of them.
Both Joe and Bill P had to switch QB’s in the playoffs and won the SB. D Williams & J Hostetler. That’s coaching 101.
Also helps to have HOF players
In
RB John Riggins
WR Art Monk
G Russ Grimm
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All pro T-G Joe Jacoby
Pro bowl WR Charlie Brown
Back in the 80s
On offense
Joe Gibbs didn’t exactly lead a bunch of scrubs to superbowls now. Great coach. One of the best. But let’s not act like he was dealing with a rag tag bunch of nobodies. His team’s fit the style that was prevalent then.
It does. That’s called having a great eye for talent. That was way before where scouting is today. It’s 24/7 these days. D Green came from a tiny school (Texas A&I) as did many greats from back in the day.
Yes, it was more of a run balanced O back then. So Joe built teams with what was prevalent then. Today is a passing league, no doubt. Name 1 QB, or WR you want on NE’s roster over the past 3 years. I don’t even know the WR’s names & he went with a washed up Cam and completely whiffed on Mac. That’s Bill’s eye for talent.
Answer me this. Whomever your team is, do you want them to go get Bill this offseason and let him be the GM/HC? He’s available.
Joe Gibbs won with the style that was prevalent. When he returned in the 2000s and the game changed and he didn’t have that “talent” it didn’t go so well. 2004-2007 they wnt 6-10, 10-6, 5-11, 9-7.
Bill won with the style that was prevalent. Gibbs had his hof offensive line and hof rb carrying the offense. Bill had his hof qb carrying the offense and eventually his hof TE. Comparing the two is different eras of football doesnt make much sense. Gibbs didn’t last long in the passing era of football. Idk if Bill would have been as success in the ground and pound era or football.
And despite bills problem drafting in 1st 2nd round all these years he’s still found many productive day 3 or udfa picks. Malcom Butler, jc Jackson, Julian Edelman to name a few. Finding guys that have productive careers as 5th 6th 7th rounders or udfa is an impressive feat in its own right.
Far as my team. Texans. I’m happy with Stroud and the receiving core. But prior to the draft I would have been ok taking a chance on Mac Jones if the price was right. I think Mac needs a change of scenery as the hc/qb combo and relationship isn’t the best. I do think a team who needs a qb that doesn’t have a shot at Maye or Williams will take a flier on Mac Jones in the off season. Atlanta. Las Vegas. Bucs
Joe went to 2 playoff games in 4 years in the 2000’s. Certainly not HoF worthiness.
The guys you list Bill found late played with Tom. Not a single early to late round picks these past 4 years have produced. The Pats record says so. NE’s problem is the same as LV; bad drafting, FA signings, & coaching. No one disagrees with Josh being canned. He lasted a season and half. Bill is in year 4 of the infamous ‘rebuild’. And still well below .500.
As for the Texans, they’ve been mired in NE folklore for too long (same for the Lions under Matt P and the GM. Both from NE) and many other teams. BOB had his anger issues. Although he did win a few division titles there. Then they went and got the preacher/reverend something like that from NE whom they fired in 3 years. And your GM also from NE had an incredible difficult time identifying a HC. Going through them every year.
I do believe your team is on the right track & I’m glad to see it. I like seeing bad teams rise up and do well. Rather than the same teams win year after year. Same for the Jags and Lions this year.
As for Mac, who knows. He crushed it at Bama, & was heavily promoted to Bill by Saban who are close friends. But without a second to throw, a running game under 4 YPC, or anyone to throw to it’s impossible to fairly judge him. I agree he needs to go somewhere competent and where he’s respected. Bill has done nothing but trash him.
And Bill went to the playoffs in his 1st year with Mac Jones. 10-7 lost the wild card game.
Sometimes the game passes you up. Passed up Joe Gibbs. Passed up Bill. The style of offenses we see out of mcvay steichen shanahan and the dual threat qb in today’s era isn’t the same as the pocket passer prototypical qb.
Andy Reid played with McNabb all those years in Philly who could also run when he needed to. 3500 yards in his career 29 TDs. So transitioning to Mahomes running his offense wasn’t that difficult. But that’s pretty far for an offense to withstand the test of time.
Did the game pass up Bill in the 90’s while HC in Cleveland? Without a HoF QB, Bill is sub .500. This is season 9 of proof for that statement. And we all know he’ll continue coaching somewhere next year making it a full decade being under .500. He’ll also need to ‘rebuild’- famous NFL wording- for 2-3 years with his next team.
It’s not going to get better for him. In fact, last offseason I said on PFR (a million times, the regulars are numb to it by now) the Pats were going to be sub .500 and they are. And I’ll say right now, wherever he coaches next season will be another sub .500 record as well. I’m that confident.
Andy won with many QB’s and only Mahomes is Canton bound. Who has Bill continually won with besides Tom?
Thanks for answering my previous question. ‘Do you want Bill as your HC?’. You said you were happy with your current situation.
Sometimes the game isn’t ready for your style.
Back in 2000s game wasn’t ready for Andy Reid offense. He had success but never seemed to win the big game.
Back in the day the nfl wasn’t ready for air Coryell and the air raid offense. Rules at the time just didn’t lend themselves to that style like the do in today’s game.
Guys being too early where rules and game style isn’t ready for that scheme is also a thing just like the game passing you up is a thing.
Andy was well above 500 in Philly (14 years). With 6 division titles to go along with those wins. Andy knows how to coach much better than Bill. Like I said, he never had a HoF QB until Mahomes. Facts and stats are important.
From google:
Reid joined the Chiefs after 14 seasons as Head Coach/Executive Vice President of Football Operations of the Philadelphia Eagles where he compiled a 130-93-1 (. 583) regular season record.
Above .500
6 division titles
0 superbowl wins
Back in Philly he was a great coach but 0 superbowl wins was the blemish on his coaching record.
Ironically, Parcells didn’t do much after his DC left. That DC was Bill Belichick.
Bill won playoff games every where he coached. NYG, Jets, Dallas, and NE. But yes, Bill B is a good DC, not a good HC & GM.
Bill P did not win a playoff game in D. Up until a few years ago, Dallas hadn’t won a playoff game since the 90’s.
I’m not buying this “today’s NFL” thing. Unless you have Mahommes/Kelce you still need to run the ball. You still need a good defense and a DL that can get after the QB if you want to win playoff games and a SB.
So rules don’t change between generations of football? So rules back in the 60s and 70s were same in 80s and 90s and are the same today? No changes made at all huh?
Today’s nfl isn’t just about style of offense (though it is much more pass heavy and rbs are no longer work horses like they were in previous generations).
It’s also about rule changes such as roughing the passer, pass interference, defensive holding. Etc etc that are a thing now but weren’t a thing before.
Push tush on defense was made illegal..player safety. On offense though its legal in today’s nfl
All the new rules and scoring is way down in the NFL. Look at totals every week, most are high 30s or low 40s. You still need to run the ball and have a balanced offense. Defenses are set up to prevent the big play and make offenses grind drives. Buffalo is a great example, they can’t run the ball and lose. Allen is getting pounded every week. The NFL evolves to whatever rules changes there are.
Derrick Henry 2nd in rushing. Titans are.3-5
Zach Moss is 3rd in rushing Colts are 3-5
You missed the point by a mile though.
Rules have changed every decade. You don’t need to run the ball as much as you use to. Josh Jacobs won a rushing title last year and Raiders did absolutely nothing.
QBs are passing more than the 60s 70s 80s and early 90s cause rules favor QBs and the passing game.
Why run the ball when you can throw it 3rd and 12 and hope for a pass interference penalty for 20+ yards or defensive holding for 5 yards and a new set of downs? Those havent always been a rule.
Todays NFL you dont need a running game. Baltimore wins a lot of games running the ball. Hasnt won a championship. Rushing leader doesnt win the superbowl every year. You need to be able to run the ball in key moments. But you dont need a running game for 4 quarters. At best you need it to waste time in the 4th.
Not sure what your point is. Yep, it’s a passing league now. Rules have changed. And scoring is lower because defenses adjusted. Last night’s game was an 80s old school 20-16 score. You can cherry pick D Henry, Jacobs and Moss stats, but QBs are way more effective when a running game is established. Tennessee was always in games because they could run. Same with Seattle. My point is about winning playoff games. Teams like Dallas and SF are more dangerous than Buffalo because they can run the ball. So maybe you like that 3rd and 12 (probably wouldn’t be in that situation if you could run the ball) and hope you get that penalty to save the drive. I’d rather have my QB in a 3rd and 4.
3rd and 12 has nothing to do with running the ball
You could run the ball for 8 yards on 1st down and take a 2nd down sack for 10 yards and be at 3rd and 12.
3rd and 12 isn’t always indicative of a teams ability to run a ball.
“Cherry pick”
Lmao. Also known as “facts don’t support my argument”. Nfl rushing leaders don’t always win the sb. Running the ball doesn’t always guarantee success. Running the bal has become a more secondary aspect than primary. Do you need to run the ball? Sure. Is it as important as it use to be? Not really. Hence why as decades increase rushing attempts go from 35 a game down to 26 25 a game. It does still hold importance, i.e. running out the clock when leading.
A rookie qb vs Matt Canada calling plays. 20-16 was more about the inexperience of Will Levis and Matt Canada being the worst oc in the league. Horrible example to support your argument.
Anyways. My point is the game of ground and pound are no longer a viable option in today’s nfl back when Gibbs won the sb in the 80s. Today’s nfl you need a mobile qb who can extend plays with their legs and who defenses need to account for to some degree. Even with mobile qbs teams are rushing the ball less. That’s because today’s nfl is different than 60s nfl 70s nfl 80s nfl 90a nfl 2000s nfl for a lot of reasons. Biggest one is rule changes that have made it harder to hit qbs without drawing a penalty of some sorts.
I didn’t disagree with you about ground and pound, 3 yards and cloud of dust 80s thing. But the point I’m making, is that scoring is down, despite all these rules changes that favor offenses. Most totals (total number of points scored if you didnt know) is between 40-44 for many NFL games (even in domes) this year. Out of 16 games last week, 9 scored 44 points or less. And if you want your team to win playoff games and the SB, you better have a good running game, unless you’re KC. Sure the mobile QB is great to extend plays, Trubisky is mobile and still isn’t accurate. Fields is awful. Lamar is getting better at throwing. Watson is mobile too, and he’s a mess. Allen is getting the sh!t kicked out of him every game, because he has no RB to take pressure off him. I’d argue Purdy isn’t mobile but look at his W/L record.
Derrick Henry took the Titans to the playoffs 3 or 4 years? They wouldn’t have made it there without him. Seattle without Marshawn Lynch either. Buffalo won’t make it far this year with no running game. SF has McCaffrey, Dallas has Pollard. These teams have good Ds, the Raiders and Jacobs don’t. That’s why your “facts” are a bit skewed. This argument that RBs are plug and play has already shown it doesnt work. That’s my point. You still need to run the ball to win playoff games.
Here’s a great graphic showing how the NFL is using the running game less and less each decade.
link to pro-football-reference.com
Arty: while Gibbs deserves tons of praise, please bear in mind that he had stellar defenses on those Super Bowl teams. 1982’s squad had the #1 defense by points allowed; 1987 was 6th, 1991 was 2nd. A bit easier to win without a HOF QB when your defense is outstanding.
That’s right. Who built those D’s, Joe did! And he built those offenses as well. Just like everyone credits Bill with being a D minded coach.
Gibbs didn’t have salary cap restraints his first tenure. His second tenure, with the cap…eh. Both are HOF coaches.
Oh look. A rule change between generations.
Joe clearly won big time with the rules that were in place during the 1980’s. As did Parcells and B Walsh.
What is Bill winning now w/ today’s rules, nothing.
I’m struggling to understand this one from Washington’s side. Bill is 71, the Patriots have struggled post-Brady, and do we bring up how he thought it would work trying to make non-offensive coordinators OCs? That doesn’t scream: this is the guy you want leading your new era of football.
Bill failed in Cleveland as well. 9 seasons under .500.
Arty – 5 seasons in Cleveland (1 winning record)
Right 1 winning season out of 5 in Cleveland and 1 out of soon to be 4 seasons in NE. A total of 9 seasons, 2 winning, along with 7 losing ones for a combined sub .500 record.
Bill was rightfully fired in Cleveland and deserves the same in NE. If some other franchise can’t see that, then let them lose as well.
Leave it alone arty! At this point this is just vendetta spam. I don’t care for Bill Belichick one way or the other but reading your incessant hate posts is tedious, boring and unproductive.
Go spam your hate somewhere else.
I think Bill retires unless the Chargers job finally comes open, a team with some nice pieces and a young stud QB that has underachieved for a few years now due to Staley. Too old to take on a team that’s still more of a project.
Tampa just needed a QB, so Brady was a perfect fit with his age. Chargers biggest need is easily good coaching, so they are a perfect fit for Bill.
Bill is the perfect Chargers HC! Tons of talent met with tons of ugly losses.
Thanks! I didn’t think of that. You just know his teams there would the as undisciplined as the Chargers always are. He’d fit right in.
This seems like a move that only Washington would make clearly the new owner hasn’t watch the post TB12 era
On the other it does make sense to as a president like the Dolphins and Jags did when they all got new owners by bringing in, Bill Parcells and Tom Coughlin respectively
Bill is still a good HC IMO, just not a good team builder these days. He needs to get out of the GM side of things and just coach, but no one willingly demotes themselves. There’s a reason why HC/GM hybrids are rare across sports.
HC Bill is a legend, GM Bill is mediocre. Post Brady, GM Bill’s work quickly caught up to and sunk HC Bill.
HC Bill is only a legend with QB Brady. Without QB Brady, he is barely average. I would take Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan and probably a few others over Belichick in a heartbeat.
Coaching only has so much influence, it can hold a team back or elevate it, but if a team is bad, it’s bad, and that’s what the Patriots roster is. Turns out it’s a lot easier to win when you have one of the best rosters in the league, which both of your examples have had for years now. Bill won more than either of them when he had that.
I don’t get the insistence on ‘It was all Brady!’ or ‘it was all Bill!’. Most reasonable take is that both were valuable parts of the dynasty. When you pair a HOF QB with an average coach, you get Rodgers and Brees careers.
Why do you excuse his 5 years of sub .500 in Cleveland? That’s on his resume. Those seasons count as well.
I dunno. I think voices and messages get old at the professional level and players—especially younger ones—tend to turn a deaf ear to what’s being imparted. Bill benefitted greatly from having Brady, as the same can be said for Tomlin here in Pittsburgh with Roethlisberger. But as the QB’s have moved on, it’s almost as if the game has passed these guys by, too
You say it in every phase, from the personnel they bring on, to the coaches they hire, to game strategy and management itself
It’s commonplace to wonder if Brady made the coach. It’s becoming fashionable in Pittsburgh to wonder if Tomlin merely was the beneficiary of inheriting guys like Ben, Troy, Heath etc
In any case, it seems to me it’s time for these guys to move on, or retire
Exactly. What’s wrong with Bill Belichick? He got old. NFL football is largely the province of hungry young co-ordinators. The head coaches now who are changing the league are all in their thirties – Mike McDaniel, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Robert Saleh.
Andy Reid is the last of old war horses who is still enjoying substantial success. Pete Caroll does seem to have partially reinvented himself in the last couple of seasons (to my surprise, he seemed very tired and out of ideas in the two seasons before that). Tomlin is younger and does not seem to have hit the wall yet. His record of steady winning seasons even in the face of adversity is incredible.
Any team who would hire a worn out Bill Belichick (he was never a charmer) is betting on someone who is past his time. Does not change Belichick’s HOF credentials or diminish his past success.
Rivera is another head coach at the end of his ideas and his energy. He’s done okay work in DC and he’s a decent enough team manager but it would be foolish to hope that he will ever be an energetic inspiring leader again.
Gerontocracy though seems to be all the rage in the USA these days. Poorly ageing NFL head coaches are just part of an overall trend.
I was a “Tomlin guy” until the past couple seasons. While I’ll stop short of asserting that his “greatness” had mostly to do with guys who came from the Cowher era, I could write volumes on everything from game management, to lax player discipline that constantly results in stupid, ill-timed penalties to a number of coordinators who apparently bumped heads with him, left town and found success elsewhere
I get that there’s a stubbornness that comes with the territory when you’ve had success and the media is constantly pushing the “one of the greats” tag. Some here are enamored with the idea Tomlin has never had a losing season but it seems that with every passing season, the Steelers look less and less like any type of contender under his direction
I always thought Alec was the old guy in that photo but it appears I got that wrong. If you’re concerned about seniors being in charge of things just come back in 25 years. A never aging Artificial Intelligence will have control by then. Won’t that be fun?
Every generation must give way, including mine. In my peak years, I wouldn’t have had time for this conversation. I’d be changing the world every damn day and out networking every night.
The difference is Reid and Shanahan have both won with other guys. Reid went to a Super Bowl with Donovan McNabb. Belichick had three number one overall pick QB’s in Testaverde, Kosar and Bledsoe and didn’t do crap. Don Shula won with Johnny Unitas, Earl Morrall, Bob Griese, David Woodley and Dan Marino. Joe Gibbs coached four Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks — Joe Theismann, Doug Williams, and Mark Rypien.
Bill didn’t pick any of those guys. And let’s be fair, here. He has disappointed in New England post Brady, but he has two playoff berths with Cleveland and with New England respectively without Brady. So let’s not pretend that there has been a total absence of success-it’s just obviously not good enough.
Besides, I don’t see how we can hold the dumpster fire that Cleveland was-and has been-against Belichick. That was always a tough rebuild job, and the fact that he got a playoff appearance at all was a good thing. As usual, his GM appetites got the best of him and he diminished the importance of his quarterback, and eventually disposed of Kosar as a starter. Not so oddly, we saw the same thing with McDaniels.
Also, an obvious fact that gets left out all the time is that the Patriots didn’t just lose Brady. They lost pretty much every single one of their defensive stalwarts other than McCourty (who just retired), and all of their receivers. More importantly-much more importantly-their entire front office was gone. That’s one major reason why Belichick’s deficiencies became more obvious. Guys like Caserio, Pioli, and most importantly, Ernie Adams were gone. Belichick was the face of the staff, but he relied on those guys to find players. You’ll not a steep drop off in the success rate of NE’s picks in the last few years since losing these staffers, especially Adams. His last year on the job was 2020-which was the last year that the Patriots made the playoffs (2019 season of course means playoffs occurring in 2020).
So Belichick can still coach, meaning that he can improve the play on the field of his personnel. The Patriots’ defense being as competitive as it is, despite being down four starting corners at one point as well as their lead pass rusher, lends credence to that. But Belichick actively hurts his team by overjudging the ability of his system and philosophy to overcome talent deficiency. In the past, he had a strong front office, a good roster, and a HoF quarterback to augment his strengths. Now, he has none. A lot of that is his fault. But his defenses still look sharp, considering the dearth of talent. If Belichick could let go of his GM role, or at least accept another voice in the room, the Patriots would improve. Belichick has pulled through during Brady’s injury in 2008 and his suspension in 2015, let’s not forget (granted, the suspension was four games). But he needs to accept his limitations, because he hasn’t done a good enough job as GM to give himself the best chance to win.
We as fans put the entire operation on him when it fails and on Brady when it succeeds, and in reality there is no logical way to separate the two with certainty. I think Belichick has done a good job with his players on the field today, and a piss poor job managing the offseason staffing and drafting, personally. But I’m not going to ignore what he can contribute as well.
“This seems like a move that only Washington would make clearly the new owner hasn’t ”
A move only Washington would make? The new owner has been there a little over 3 months. Getting rid of 2 players for draft picks on a sinking ship of a season is all he’s done, he hasn’t established a rep for anything yet.
“chatter in some league circles”
“Florio cautions that this “isn’t a report that it will happen,” he said it’s a possibility that’s currently being thrown around”
This story is media invented. It has nothing to do with any actual NFL teams, but it got over 50 comments so I guess it worked.
The new Commies ownership wasn’t after the draft picks. They are after the cap space first of all and then the draft picks. Management realises that without rebuilding the offensive line (there’s literally one long term above average prospect on the roster and he’s a guard).
Keeping Montez Sweat and Chase Young meant taking about $45 million more per year out of the salary cap. That cash is intended for the offense, and in particular the offensive line.
Getting draft picks back early by trading away the two players half way through what has become a lost season is an extremely clever move. If the Redskins/Commies were 5 and 3, at least one of those two DE would still be on the roster.
I agree, new owners are clearing the way for the next HC/GM.
My comment was more targeted to how do you make an assumption about the new owner who hasn’t done anything yet other than preparing for next year?
So based on your explanation, which I agree with, How does this equate to “Hey, the new owners must want Bellichek”.
The Commies don’t want Belichick. He’s yesterday’s man. Bringing him to DC would be to wallow in another five years of pain.
As Defensive Coordinator, good move.
This is like Lombardi all over again
Vince Lombardi never had a losing season as a head coach, not in Green Bay, not even with the Redskins.
The only people who think Belichick would be great in Washington are the National Sports Media and the New York Sports Media.
Brady made Belly.
Florio does not have connections to Belichick or the NFL team that plays in Washington. I give this report zero credence.
P.S. – Florio is a clown.
“chatter in some league circles” to me equals “Hey, I just had an idea!”
So… Florio is just spitballing and it gets picked up here and turned into a new article. Now it’s in the news cycle. And it’s all just speculation. Sports reporting is so very bad.
If think weather reporting is mostly speculation too. It’s nice to have a job where you can always be wrong but never get fired because of that.
One of these days arty! will stop holding back and tell us what he really thinks about Belichick.
As a Bears’ fan, do you want BB as your HC/GM combo? It’s an easy question.
Recently hired (2-3 years) new HC’s for the Chargers, Bears, LV (fired in 1.5 seasons), & Saints are all on the preverbal hot seat. Bill is at year 4, his seat should be smoking hot.
What I want is for you to get over this obsession with Belichick. Alec Kinnear was harsh but he has a point. Do you want to become like that “Burrows Is A Bust” character who had to be banned from the site because he constantly annoyed people with his Watson/Browns obsession? I remember a happier arty who use to always have a positive impact in this forum. I miss him.
Uh, didn’t the just announce he signed an extension in the offseason?
Like, right before the Bills game, they announced it.
They did. And I lit up the comment section!
I just love the silly comments that Bill B. is nothing without Tom Brady. These are silly comments because OF COURSE he won because of Brady, he was his quarterback for 20 years. Right? Did you want the Pats to trade Brady to prove they could win without him? What?
I guess other championship coaches used 3rd stringers to win superbowls?
Tom Brady was playing defense as well? Bill B had nothing to do with ANY other aspect of the NE Superbowls, it was ALL TOM BRADY.
You guys sound silly. Jealous of NE success.
Bill B. was going to get old as he is. He is still the ONLY coach with 6 superbowls, which makes anyone’s negative arguments just pure hatin.
I dont even like the Patriots and Bill B, but i am not foolish enough to take anything away from their wins. Tom Brady or not.
Just silly and foolish argument. Also just as a final point how many superbowl wins were because of Tom Brady alone? Atlanta? Definitely not Seattle.
BTW if you saying that Bill B was nothing without Tom Brady what is your opinion of Phil Jackson. Guy never won anything without Top 10 NBA players, he sucks…
Both Gibbs and Parcells won SB’s with backup’s. Doug Williams sat on the bench before winning the game & Hostetler won a ring with Parcells filling in for P Simms. Mark Rypien bounced from bench to starter to bench to SB winning QB as well.
That answer your question?
This is a stupid conversation (who won Super Bowls with backups and who won with Tom Brady). There’s no reason to have to have it three times/day on ProFootballRunmors.com. Find another outlet for your Bill Belichick vendetta, arty. We are all sick of it.
Arty, you do know who also won a ring that year with Hostetler…
yeah, Bill as a DC not HC. Difference there.
I mean, he still contributed. Heavily, I might add. His defenses shut down the vaunted Bills offense and the Broncos’ Elway in those Super Bowls. They gave up 20 points to the Broncos and 19 to the Bills. With the added luck of an infamous missed field goal, the Giants pulled it out in the Hostetler win. With all due respect to him, they only put up 20 points themselves on that game. Hostetler had 214 net passing yards, and the Giants’ number one scoring defense limited the Bills’ number scoring offense to those 19 points. So you are giving credit to Parcells for winning with a backup, but Belichick did a lot, arguably more, to win that Super Bowl too. In fact, Parcells didn’t win a Super Bowl without Belichick. I’m not doing the Brady-Belichick argument in reverse, here, but it is a little ironic.
DC or not, Bill’s defense anchored the Giants all season and eventually added another chapter to the “defense wins championships” mantra that used to be true…until the rules changed due, ironically, to guys like Brady.
Not buying this BS story. Kraft didn’t just give Belichick a massive new contract just to trade him for a couple of picks, especially since there is no young coaching phenom on his staff that can just pick up and win. Kraft is smart enough to know that the number of good head coaches is like the number of good starting QBs, i.e., only about half the league has them and you will surely stink if you aren’t in that group.
The chatter is probably just in Florio’s head. Most of what he says is. Medication to stop the voices may help the random stuff he thinks he hears.
I don’t understand why some people are upset with this kind of speculation getting attention. To me it’s no different than the story a couple of seasons ago suggesting Condoleeza Rice was going to join the Cleveland Browns organization. Just go along with the gag.
P.S I’m also a fan of Weekly World News and Bat Boy.
Well, in Florio’s case, he passes it off as factual and then writes forty seven articles a week about it, while never acknowledging counter arguments or alternative explanations.