1:49pm: Jets team officials are flying to meet with Rodgers today, Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com tweets. Jets brass will use Woody Johnson‘s private plane to meet with the four-time MVP in California, Dianna Russini of ESPN.com adds (via Twitter). Rodgers has an offseason home in California. The Packers have greenlit this meeting, another sign a trade is a very real possibility. All key parties are in attendance, with NFL Network’s Peter Schrager noting Johnson, HC Robert Saleh, OC Nathaniel Hackett and GM Joe Douglas are meeting with Rodgers (Twitter link).
10:03am: Throughout the offseason, Aaron Rodgers has been closely connected to the Jets as speculation regarding his playing future continues to swirl. Another development pointing toward a Green-Bay-to-New-York move has taken place.
Rodgers had discussions with the Jets about a potential move there yesterday, as first noted (on Twitter) by veteran reporter Trey Wingo and since corroborated by multiple reports. Wingo adds that Rodgers is “open to the idea” of playing in New York, something which would of course be required for trade talks between the Packers and Jets to become serious. Since Rodgers is still under contract with Green Bay, the Packers needed to grant the Jets permission to speak with him to avoid tampering. 
The fact that they did comes as no surprise at this point. The Jets have been outspoken about their intentions of making a significant addition under center this offseason, and their top target has at all times been Rodgers. The two sides were speculatively linked to one another when New York hired Nathaniel Hackett as offensive coordinator, who developed a strong bond with the four-time MVP during their time spent together in Green Bay.
Rodgers’ talks with the are set to continue throughout Tuesday, Dan Graziano of ESPN.com notes. While the increasingly outspoken all-time great has not indicated he plans to play a 19th season, his discussions with another team certainly point to this third offseason of trade drama producing a separation. The Packers plan to accommodate Rodgers if he prefers the Jets, Ian Rapoport of NFL.com notes (video link). While Rapoport adds the Pack would also accommodate Rodgers if he wants to stay, the past few weeks have painted a picture of that scenario producing some complications.
Plan B for the Jets was former Raider Derek Carr, whose early release gave him a head start on free agency. After positive meetings with the AFC East outfit, many expected him to wind up in New York in the event they were unable to trade for Rodgers. Instead, he chose the Saints yesterday in a move which landed him a lucrative deal before Rodgers’ future was decided one way or the other, and before other pending free agents officially hit the open market.
One of those is Jimmy Garoppolo, whose tenure with the 49ers is – for the second straight offseason – expected to come to an end. Before New York’s front office keyed in on Carr, many in the building supported Garoppolo as an option, per ESPN’s Dianna Russini (Twitter link). With Carr no longer available, it will be worth monitoring how much attention the Jets pay to Garoppolo, who will no doubt have a number of suitors especially if Rodgers retires or chooses to remain in Green Bay.
The latter outcome has not been the expected one, however, since a report emerged last month claiming that the Packers were fully prepared to move on from Rodgers and turn the offense over to Jordan Love. Gutekunst has publicly praised the latter, while deferring to Rodgers in terms of deciding on his playing future and where, if at all, he would accept a trade. Few talks have taken place between Gutekunst and the 39-year-old since his darkness retreat ended.
On the matter of a potential Packers-Jets trade, compensation could present a notable obstacle. Rodgers’ contract calls for a $58.3MM bonus to be paid at some point in 2023; that, coupled with the uncertainty of how much longer he will continue playing could lessen the trade cost the Jets would be willing to pay. Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel notes that many around the league expect the Packers to receive a smaller package of draft picks than they initially wanted due to the financial burden Rodgers represents. Green Bay may be required to retain part of his compensation to facilitate a deal, and a contract restructure upon arrival in New York would come as little surprise.
A decision from Rodgers with respect to his future is expected soon. Once it is made, the Jets could come even more strongly to the forefront in their bid to acquire him in what would be one of the blockbuster moves of the 2023 offseason.
Green Bay is gonna be so bad for so long.
I don’t think this is gonna age well.
Hmmm stats show teams with terrible QBs do not tend to do well. Maybe your comment will be the one to not age well.
Do they have a terrible QB? No one knows, but people in the building have seen Love much more than we have.
You’re assuming Love will be bad when nobody really knows how he will perform yet. But what we do know is GB has been good to great since the beginning of time. There’s no world where they are “gonna be bad for so long.”
The odds are that Love won’t be that good. That’s typically how it works with unknown QBs.
You obviously missed the 70s and 80s, pre-Favre
we try to block out the dark ages in WI.
@Chiefs – have you ever watched Trent Dilfer?
“Teams with terrible QBs do not tend to do well”. So says the fan of a team, oh like say the Bears, who hasn’t had a decent QB in like 50 years?
Yeah, I remember how terrible Rodgers was going to be because he “lacked arm strength, poor athleticism, can’t create on his own, injury plagued, system QB, terrible mechanics, Tedford QB,” after he was AWFUL in his first 3 seasons save for part of a game against the top team in the NFC East in his 3rd year and the organization publicly claimed he was developing the entire time.
And to be clear, ALL of those things were written about Rodgers and there was a lot less confidence in Rodgers than their was in Love.
Maybe he will suck though. Certainly possible. So then 2024 they’ll have most likely their 1st, the Jets 1st(the Packers are going to stick to 2 1sts and it’s already been reported the Jets would “happily pay that,” and that’s when Carr was still an option.
So if Love IS that bad, they’ll be picking in the top 10 with extra draft capital in a much better draft than this years draft is.
Your comment won’t age well
If I’m the Jets I want Rodgers but I’m probably only giving up a mid round pick. If the Packers are willing to eat a significant amount of money though I would be willing to pay more in picks. Maybe if GB is willing to pay half of the amount owed over the next 2 years I would trade #13 this year.
GB is going to take a cap hit regardless. There’s no way they agree to eat even more money just to trade him away. My guess is the return will include a conditional pick or 2, based on how many years he ends up playing. And I would think NY won’t do a trade unless he agrees to a restructure tied in to it.
As nice a thought as that is, it’s not really how the cap works and it’s unrealistic for what QBs cost on the trade market.
He’s worth a #2 for every year he plays
@mookie – that’s actually a fair offer.
If you’re the Jets GM Joe Douglas, do you give up this year’s 2nd rounder or next year’s 1st for a QB rapidly approaching age 40? Is the rest of the NYJ roster good enough to gel into a playoff team with Rodgers at QB — especially with no cap room and valuable players likely to be cut to welcome Aaron’s massive contract?
I’m not saying I would do it. As a Jets fan, I’ve been vocally hesitant. That doesn’t change what a realistic asking price would be.
Why does everyone insist that the figures for Rodgers’ current deal..WITH GB..is absolutely set in stone? I hate making guarantees, but if the Jets have any brains at all, part if their discussions with him must be about reworking/restructuring or a whole new contract before even picking up the phone with a serious offer to the Packers.
And before anyone says they can’t, what’s stopping them? There’s no way the entire conversation consisted of asking him ‘hey Rodgers, would you consider playing for us?’ And him saying ‘yeah, sure.’ Or that there won’t be more conversation if all sides agree to pursue a deal.
Because he’s not going to cut his guarantees. If traded, the acquiring team will effectively be getting him on a 2 year, $108.8 million deal. I’m sure any acquiring team will talk contract plans, and it can be restructured to spread out cap hits, but that’s still what they’re acquiring. There’s a limit to how much you can lessen that impact with a 39-year old QB.
Jets are most certainly giving up a 1st round pick. It just might not be this years pick. I they give up a 3rd this year & a 1 next year.
Probably true, but I think there may be players going the other way to offset the cost. I could see any of Lawson, Wilson and Davis among them.
Davis will most likely be cut. Lawson likely will be, especially if Rodgers comes.
Yeah, they can move on with almost no cap hit. Same with Lawson. The Jets can create ~60M in cap space with almost no problem.
If they’re going all in, they’re going to go out and sign a couple of FAs as well.
Bud Dupree, maybe Marcus Davenport. Someone who has the athletic ability to take advantage of the interior pass rush the Jets have. And then you’ll likely sign Mercedes Lewis, Lazard, Cobb, a couple players like that.
The Jets can do pretty much whatever they want. It’s about cash more than the cap. The cap is too easily manipulated. The ONE thing that seems REALLY stupid is to cut bait on Wilson right now.
You’re going to have Rodgers for two years. I wouldn’t be shocked if Tom Clement comes with Aaron Rodgers(a GREAT QB coach who’s been in GB for a long time…helped Favre at the end, developed Rodgers and has his famous QB school).
So while you’re doing ALL this going “all in,” you’ve got 3 years of control of Zach Wilson…and you’re gonna give him away because he was bad for 2?
I get he’s been bad, but I really think a LOT of QBs are ruined by asking too much too soon.
Rodgers 100% would have failed in GB had he been asked to start right away.
You will likely be in a situation similar to Tampa in 3 years(maybe 4 as I think Rodgers plays 3 more TBH).
Seems like it makes sense to stick with Wilson for another year to see how he plays or develops while he’s running the scout team, in pre-season. Take some pressure off and let him learn from Rodgers.
That dude has some Rodgers/Mahomes type skills and can spin it.
At least let it play for the next year or 2.
Well…you’re no the Jets.
First of all, the Packers ARE eating a significant chunk. The Jets would be getting Rodgers for a ~15M cap hit this year and a 25M cap hit in 2024.
Yeah, they’ll have a big cap hit in 2025 then…just like the Buccs do this year with Brady(35M in dead cap in 2023 when he’s retired).
And the Jets are giving up 13 just to start with. The BARE minimum starting point. Then it’s a question, is next years a 1st or is it a player and a conditional 2nd that could become a 1st.
My guess is that it ends up being Rodgers, Moore and ’23+’24 1sts.
And I also think there’s a non-zero chance that the Packers include Bakhtiari in that trade. I think he only comes with a ~6M cap hit for the team acquiring him(after the roster bonus is paid out, it wouldn’t be immediate).
Then the two 1sts become a no-brainer. Even when he still had a lot of damage and came back rusty and played one game in ’22(he injured his knee end of Dec ’21) he was still elite, much less last year when the knee was still weak.
Though I suspect they want to keep him and build that OL up with Bakh, Jenkins, Tom and company so Love has the same chance for success that Rodgers did early on.
BUT…as a Packers fan who wants to be a Jets fan, that would be the best possible outcome for the Jets.
I also think Bakh is worth more than that, but he struggled to stay healthy the past two years.
Now the Jets, if they got Bakh? Play Becton at RT, Vera-Tucker, Tomlinson? I don’t really know how good McGovern is, but seems like he’s solid. And this allows Mitchell to move around as the swing or possibly win a job as a OG? Maybe Mekhi becomes a OG. He can move Mt. St Helena, so no problem moving DL.
I don’t think the draft return will be that high.
Maybe I’m alone in this but I really don’t want Rodgers. Even if he does get traded and plays the season, what happens next year? We gonna go through this again? The headache doesn’t feel worth it.
If I’m the Jets, and I sincerely believe we’re a qb and a couple complimentary pieces from being a legit contender THIS year, why not? If they actually then get a SB, who cares what happens next off-season? Is the possible retirement drama really going to overshadow winning the SB?
With or without Rodgers, this team is more than a quarterback away from winning the Super Bowl. The offensive line needs a lot of attention, they need at least one linebacker and safety, and they get to do all this with very limited cap space
I think the o-line needs more health than attention. AVT is a stud. Becton is still an unknown quantity. Mitchell has talent. Tomlinson didn’t have a good season. I’m not sure if Fant is still under contract, but Brown is and he was decent. I do see them trying
to upgrade via the draft but I’m not sure it will be their first pick. I could see Njigba picked by the Jets depending on what they do in a possible Rodgers trade.
@phenomenal: AVT is indeed a stud. Becton hasn’t played in 2 years, I would strongly caution against counting on him for anything. You definitely need a starting-caliber backup. Mitchell played well but he also had a pretty serious health issue. Tomlinson was terrible. Brown was unremarkable and is one year older. Pretty sure Fant is a free agent as is McGovern.
The Jets have as much cap space as they want(obviously within reason), but they could get 60M under in about 10 minutes, then create another 25M.
You have plenty of cap space…and it’s amazing the hole that a MVP QB can cover up.
Hahaha ha. Slow your roll. AR couldn’t win it all in GB with a stacked team & home field. You might get to a divional round.
What roll? I offered a hypothetical take on the JETS situation, which some people actually do believe they’re not that far from contending.
And which GB team are you referring to? Because in addition to below-expected play from Rodgers, every year saw multiple failures by the defense and/or ST. Not to mention poor coaching.
Sure, last year’s defense was stacked..with big names. The DC just didn’t know what to do with them. And the offense featured Alan Lazard and 2 rookies at wr. That’s not stacked.
The Jets aren’t winning a Super Bowl because they add a Prima Donna. You still have to have a head coach who can also manage the clock and also one who doesn’t choke leads. It is a nice little dream but Salah isn’t winning anything being a head coach and Prima Donna Aaron will only slow down the progress Salah has made. Imagine that cry baby in New York with that media? No where to hide he will melt down quicker than butter in a frying pan
“That media” consists of 3 tabloids on life support and talk radio that’s been greatly diminished.
LOL…what a ridiculous comment.
So don’t get Rodgers because you don’t want a primma donna at QB(if Namath was anything, it was a Primma Donna) and you don’t have a HC who can win anyway.
Plus, getting Rodgers will “ONLY slow the progress Saleh has made?”
Also, if you don’t know how to spell your OWN HC’s name, I have to assume…you’re a clueless fan or not actually a fan.
A stacked team? He had a JV receiving corp who led the league in drops. His OL was trash. Their defense was trash. Rodgers was pretty far down the list of problems for GB last year— this with BBC a broken thumb.
No, he really wasn’t. And the Jets are certainly not trash.
I think you probably have recognized that now.
Contender only if they draft another OL or two. Based on the injuries and assuming Becton is out, they’ll need another top lineman.
As a Bears fan I can’t wait for Rogers to leave and I can’t wait to see what happens to the Packers and their fans. I have my popcorn ready.
I suppose as a Bears fan you need something, anything to cling to in order to cope with the last 30ish years of being owned by GB.
Just be careful with that popcorn. It’ll get stuck in your teeth and throat.
If I was a Bears fan, I’d find something else to do on Sundays.
We Vikings and Packers fan can agree that there’s probably nothing more fun than a desperate Bears fan.
And as a Bears fan, thank God we don’t live in Green Bay.
As a packers fan I’ve been laughing my butt off for 30 years at the bears. It’s been funny TV and I’ll continue laughing at the bears many years to come
The same thing was said when Favre was traded. Hearing it all over again.
Eh…not quite. When Favre was traded, there was probably LESS confidence in Rodgers.
People forget, he got hurt and had season ending injuries TWICE in the 3 years he was a backup.
People said he didn’t have arm strength, was a system QB, didn’t have athleticism…
The whole, “he was the favorite to go #1” is revisionist history. He was never the favorite. That was always the 6’4 Alex Smith who was a more impressive looking pure athlete.
Plus, Rodgers was a Tedford guy and his mechanics were just awful.
So people were more confident Rodgers would such than Love.
Now Love may well suck(and if he does, we’ll have a great pick in a draft with Caleb Williams and Maye in 2024). If that happens, oh well. If he doesn’t…well…beautiful. We’ve got a lot of young talent on offense, on defense, several nice young players and we’ll have a ton of cap space in the near future.
Gary, Jaire, Jenkins, Watson, Doubs, Tom, likely two 1sts in the next 2 drafts.
It’s hard to not think what could have been if we’d made the trade with the Broncos;
2022
1st(9th) Charles Cross-Stud LT
2nd(40th) Boye Mafe, edge from U-Minn
5th(151) Tariq Woolen
2023-5th overall pick(probably lower with Rodgers, but…still, a top ~10 pick).
2023-37th overall pick
+Fant, Shelby Harris+Lock and I think there was someone else.
And that was Denver’s plan B. So the Packers may have gotten the 3 1sts that was rumored when they took Surtain 9th overall.
What could have been!
2 3rd rounders with the 2nd one being conditional on whether Rodgers plays in 2024 – pay some of the $58MM plus throw in Zach since I cannot see a reason to keep him on the team.
They’re not getting Aaron Rodgers for a Carson Wentz price.
His age and his annual waffling on his desire to continue playing not to mention his cap hit are real issues. How much do you think he’s worth compensation-wise?
I know those are real issues, and I would be gun shy, but he’s still going to be more expensive than that.
I disagree 100%. It doesn’t sound at all like any other team is in the running for him, plus given all the reasons I laid out, I think you’re going to be surprised how little it’ll cost
Hey, I hope you’re right. Much as I would dread the circus and risk of disaster, taking a swing on Rodgers with this team for less than a first is a lot more enticing.
His cap hit is less than Wentz.
And we already know they’re getting 2 firsts for Rodgers if he agrees and wants to play there.
No chance you get him for 2nds. Another team would come in and steal him for that price. Miami or even SF would pay more than that and be happy to take on the contract that the Packers already paid the SB out for.
The Packers said only first rounder. Jets know this too.
he’s going there. Do you think Carr signs yesterday without knowing the Jets were out. Just a matter of working out trade compensation. going to guess a conditional 2nd and conditional 3rd
A conditional 2nd and a conditional 3rd?
LOL…and what are the conditions? That they also get 1sts?
YOU’RE NOT GETTING RODGERS FOR 2ND AND 3RDS!
This is obvious. Unless you want to throw in Vera-Tucker and then you’re still not getting him for a 2 and a 3.
Rodgers: “I’m thinking of talking to the NY Jets.”
GB: “The plane ticket is on us!
That return flight isn’t bringing a QB that will stop the next 4-5 losing seasons. Careful what you wish for.
I wouldn’t trade Rodgers for less than a #1 and #2 this year, with a conditional #1 next year, and probably even more, if he plays next season. That would be the absolute bottom I would take. Any team that thinks they are close to a QB away from being a legitimate SB contender is nuts not to give them that. If I were the Buccaneers, I would do the trade above in a minute without thought. How many mid 1st and 2nd rounders are truly worth as much as a franchise altering QB, even for a season or two. If a team wouldn’t give me AT LEAST that, I would tell him to play in GB or sit out for no pay. What is a couple 3rd rd draft picks going to do for Green Bay? If they traded him for that, there should be an investigation.
that sounds like it makes sense. over pride, just be willing to not win or attempt to build for the post Rodgers future.
btw no one is giving a 1st, 2nd and conditional first for a guy who needs to escape civilization each offseason to decide if he wants to play.
That offer isn’t helping the Packers for crap in building for the future. They would be better off if he purposely sat, so they could take his $ off the cap for other players then getting those nothing offers. Rodgers is a nut imop, but he is also one of the greatest QB’s of all time. Barry Bonds and A Rod were two of the biggest jerks in baseball, but nobody cared when they were making their team’s championship contenders. Like I said, if I am the Buccaneers, I would do that deal in a minute(I am a Bucs fan). Same for the Radiers. Same for the Patriots. Same for the Jets. Who are the Jets going to roll out there the next season or two if they don’t get Rodgers? 8 games of mediocre Jimmy G? Carson Wentz? Mike White? Zack Wilson? Teddy Bridgewater? The press in NY would just eat their organization alive if they passed on that deal, and he went to the Radiers, Patriots, or Buccaneers instead.
LOL…of course they’re giving a 1st.
I guarantee you at LEAST a 1st and a conditional 2nd with the condition being that he play next year(and he will).
And likely a player the Packers can use like Moore.
It’s almost certainly 2023 1st+2024 1st.
@cosmo: there’s no way in hell he’s worth even one of those picks. He’s 40 years old, very expensive, and consistently holds the team hostage trying to decide if he wants to play. If they’re offered any package consisting of a 2nd, 3rd or 4th they’re fools if they turn it down
He’s 39. He should have 3 good years left. I know I would give those picks in a minute if I were any of the teams I listed. I know I wouldn’t trade him for less if I was GB, since that wouldn’t do anything to help their franchise short or long term, especially vs him even sitting out so they wouldn’t have to pay him. If the Jets fans would prefer to keep those picks for a complete unknown like Broderick Jones, while rolling out Mike White, Carson Wentz, etc the next 1-3 years, than I think they are nuts, and must enjoy being just good enough to pick between 10-18 in the NFL draft vs giving themselves at least a chance to contend. If I were a Jets fan I would be ecstatic if they landed Rodgers. If they go with the other options, but keep a few unproven draft picks, I would be wondering why I would waste the time watching them next season, and more than likely the next few seasons after that. Remember, the team acquiring Rodgers gives up no picks the following year if he doesn’t play. I can’t believe any Jets fan wouldn’t rather have Rodgers next season over Broderick Jones, or some other unproven rookie, and a mid 2nd round oick(for argument sake, the next Elijah Moore). I guess we differ there. Just my take.
I stopped reading after the first 2 sentences. You have nothing to say that’s worthy of further attention if you think Aaron Rodgers is giving any team 3 more years
You’re going to look real stupid when Rodgers ends up playing 3-4 more years.
I mean, you already looked stupid when you said he was 40 and talked about his massive cap hit this year(~15M for the team acquiring him?).
So sure…don’t bother reading and then start ranting when they give up 2 1sts.
Once you start talking about Day 2/3 picks, there are 20 teams that would gladly get involved.
And…Aaron Rodgers now plans to play 3 more years.
As both I predicted and the poster you’re mocking.
I find it utterly amazing that any Jets fan right now would rather have those traded picks back instead of having Rodgers. Some on here actually would have rather had those picks and rolled out another season of Zach Wilson or brought in a Teddy Bridewater? You have to be trolling or just out of your mind if that is the case. Just look at the hope and optimism he has brought to that Jet franchise who hasn’t been to a Super Bowl since the height of the Vietnam war. That deal should have been a no brainer for the Jets. That one deal took an afterthought franchise and just made it a true potential contender in the playoffs.
Well…for one, I’m not a Jets fan. I’m a Packers fan(I’ll become a Jets fan after next year or if you make the playoffs, at that point).
I DO think Wilson is in ALMOST a perfect situation. The Jets will have to figure out how to navigate the cap, but I believe he’ll have a chance to be an outstanding QB when Rodgers leaves.
That said, what Jets fan has said they gave up too much for Rodgers?
AT the time there seemed to be some who thought they’d get Rodgers for an exceptionally low amount, but it seems like everyone is all on board the Jets bandwagon at the moment and happy to have Rodgers.
And…for that matter, the Packers are happy to be where they are. Lots of young talent, Love looks REALLY good, they’ll be clear or Rodgers deal and they’ve got the youngest team in the league and a whole lot of VERY good young talent.
I think it works out for both teams. For the Jets, if Favre had stayed for 3 years and had that great year with the Vikings but instead of New York…and for the Packers, they had a young, unproven 1st Rd QB and a LOT of young talent(though they were more of a finesse team then and are more physical now, but generally the same point).
I could see the Jets be true SB contenders in ’24 and ’25. Skeptical of ’23 because it takes Rodgers a while to adjust, but the defense is so special…who knows?
I agree with you, and have been. I think you might of missed that.
The man changes his mind in an instant. If he plays 3 years I would be amazed
No, he doesn’t. He’s been talking about playing into his mid 40s for the last 10-12 years.
He spoke at the press conference after the Lions games about the young WRers, the future, etc…he was NEVER retiring.
He wanted to come back and finish his career in GB.
Problem is, GB was in a tough spot with his cap hit and Love’s situation. So the ONLY thing I think he “changed his mind” about was what he publicly said to McAfee, that he was “90% retired,” when NOTHING he’d said suggested he was ever retired.
He wanted the narrative to be that HE wanted the trade, NOT the Packers wanted to move on and he found out about it after the darkness retreat.
That’s it though. He’s always talked about playing well into his 40s. He’s 39.
“I guarantee you at LEAST a 1st and a conditional 2nd.”
Literally what he was traded for.
They’d definitely have been fools if they’d turned down a deal consisting of a 2nd, 3rd or a 4th and they accepted it.
So did Douglas make a bad trade then?
I think he overpaid. Personal opinion
Remember when Hackett went to Denver so Rodgers was confirmed to Denver too? That stuff means nothing. Rodgers goes for about a 3rd rounder though.
LOL…a 3rd rounder!
Reality;
1-Trade up in the 1st rd=to a late 3rd
2-40th overall pick this year
2-1st rd pick if Rodgers plays 65% of his snaps, another 2nd
I believe there was a 5th and a 6th also exchanged, but I don’t recall the order. I’d assume the Jets got the 5th and Packers the 6th.
Bit more than a 3rd though.
Everyone here seems convinced that Rodgers shouldn’t or wouldn’t cost a first rounder, while I’m worried about how much more than a first rounder he would cost. Russell Wilson got more than two firsts and two seconds. The idea of Rodgers going for a third or two thirds is out of touch with reality, I think.
Agree. I am convinced part of the return will depend on how long he plays, and possibly even how successful the Jets are with him. Hypothetically, if the Jets are drafting at the end of whatever round(s) their picks are being sent to GB, Gute & Co won’t settle for a singular pick, and no chance if it’s at the end of round 3.
Cosmodog’s idea seems a little too much the other way..probably because I don’t expect Rodgers to play more than 2 years wherever he is..but a late 3rd rounder or 2 feels like it’s coming from people who just don’t like him, and blindly believe every playoff failure by GB over the past decade is entirely his fault.
Agree, but Rodgers age plays into too. Denver is certainly regretting their decision.
Absolutely, but commanding less than a single first rounder would be an extreme difference in price.
Rodgers value has DRASTICALLY changed, but remember when it was 3 1sts+3 2nds after he won his 3rd MVP 2 years ago?
Denver was willing to send Surtain+ then presumably 2 more 1sts and 3 2nds?
Then last year it dropped, but was still more than Wilson.
This year, of course it’s dropped again…not because his play did, that was his OL and a thumb injury, but just age and you’re talking about a 2-3 year window(though I really think he surprises everyone and plays longer than 2 years. 3, MAYBE even 4).
With all these rumors that the Packers are hoping Rodgers wants to leave, I don’t see how the Jets offer anything more than a third or fourth rounder, unless the Packers eat a ton of his salary.
Yes, like how those rumors absolutely had him traded to Denver each of the past 2 years. Rumors are for fans to talk about. And even if they’re true, there’s no way Gute is going to say to the Jets, “listen, the rumors are true, we don’t want him around, just give us some table scraps and an autographed Namath jersey and we’ll even pay half his salary! No, we’re aware of the cap hit we already have to eat, but we’ll eat another $20 million just to unload him.”
Highly unlikely. Especially when the Jets could most likely just work out a restructured deal with him. This isn’t MLB where teams regularly give cash considerations to make a deal.
I don’t think GB will be paying down his salary but I think they will be taking salary back. I see any or all of Lawson, Wilson and Davis going the other way.
You save like 4M dollars if you send back ALL of those players.
My man…you have to understand the cap. Why send Lawson or David back? The Packers could just cut them like the Jets and take on basically zero in cap hits.
Lawson has 333K in dead cap, Lawson has like 666K. Less than 1 Million combined. The Jets, if they trade Wilson, it will COST them money because they paid him almost all signing bonus and his base salaries are less than a million this year and like 1M next year.
The Jets would be ABSOLUTE MORONS if they made it a condition that the Packers take Wilson when they have a chance to keep him for 2 more years BEFORE the 5th year option and let him develop under Rodgers…who he has a relationship with and who he respects.
You keep Wilson because he’s insanely talented, because he’s still relatively cheap and because you COULD walk away in 2 years with 2 great years from Rodgers and still have control of a young QB who just might have developed while learning behind Rodgers.
But Davis? Lawson? Just cut them. Same difference as you trading them.
The Jets are basically 60M under the cap with just BASIC restructures and after cutting Lawson and Davis.
That’s 45 after trading for Rodgers. They don’t need to screw around and match salaries and the Packers aren’t going to…unless it’s a young, talented player(They’d LOVE to get Wilson back).
Because other teams would beat that offer if that’s the price. Look at what QBs cost. Baker Mayfield cost a 4th after the Browns acquired Watson and there was nowhere else for him to go.
Exactly. The Raiders aren’t gonna pay 2 1sts with one being a 7th, but they’d give up a 2nd this year and a 1st next year most likely. Certainly more than 2nd or 3rds.
That’s…ridiculous.
What are the Jets options if they don’t get Rodgers? Jimmy G? Does he move the needle even close to enough to make them SB contenders? Not even close imop. The Jets haven’t been to a SB since 1968/9, and haven’t been close to one in over a dozen years. You would think there fan base would be dying for a legitimate contending team to root for, and they would pass that up by not offering a mid 1st and 2nd rd pick this season, and if Rodgers stays healthy and plays next season, a most likely lower 1st and 2nd next season? Look at the mock drafts. Are any of the players mocked to the Jets in those spots remotely worth an Aaron Rodgers? Are the Jets going to roll WIlson, White, or a Teddy Bridgewater out there next year, while the press prints that they could have had Rodgers right now for the next Mekhi Becton and Elijah Moore? GB has all the leverage here. The Raiders would offer more than that.
I’d love to see the Jets blow all their draft capital and cap space only to see Rogers tank. He already showed several signs of the typical 40-year-old QB decline in 2022 (Brady was an anomaly).
No, he did NOT show signs of decline last year.
Also, he’s 39, but not the point.
He showed signs of losing his top 3 WRers, not having his Pro-Bowl LG/OT Jenkins while also missing his All Pro LT in Bakh.
He played with a broken thumb and rookie WRers who…were ALSO injured almost all year.
I love Rodgers, but it was the talent around him last year. The Jets have the cap space(or they can so easily create it) and the skill players in place, plus the defense that Rodgers would make them legit contenders.
I think his contract gets adjusted for cap reasons, but his salary isn’t out of the question. We just saw Geno Smith sign for $35M, Carr for $36M, and Daniel Jones for $40M.
Rodgers cap hits are are ~15.8M next year and roughly 25M in 2024.
Then you’d have a big dead cap hit, but the salary cap in 2025 will likely be in the 300M range as they’ll have repaid Covid this year and the new 111Billion dollar TV deal is kicking in, plus the new redzone deal that’s going from 1B a year to 3B a year.
Every NFL team is going to get a check from the league for ~430M dollars on the first day of the league year. That’s BEFORE they sell a single hot dog, jersey, TICKET, parking, anything else.
And cash can keep you in front of the cap for years. If the Jets have the cash(and every team does) they can not just sign Rodgers, they can literally afford any other 2-3 players they want on the FA market.
It’s just a matter of how much dead cap space you want down the road. Tampa is paying Brady 35M this season and he’s not playing. I’d guess they’d say it was worth it.
The Jets fans like Mike Greenberg think they are getting Rodgers in his prime. Instead they would be getting a surly, injury-prone, conspiracy theorist who thinks he will be the smartest person in New York City. Physically he will be struggling and emotionally he will get agitated at the slightest bit of criticism leveled by the NY media feeding frenzy and impatient can base. He is playing for a last big pay day and will quit at the end of the year so he won’t share the Hall of Fame stage with Brady. Jets are always looking for the quick fix. This trade and the cost of getting him and carrying his salary and cutting current players will set the franchise back years. But that’s the Jets way.
Like the NY media is going to be just FINE with AR sitting with Pat McAfee every week, giving HIM exclusive media hits. They’re going to eat him alive in NY.
Dude won the MVP in 2 of his last 3 years.
And all the rest of what you wrote told me you get your Rodgers info from idiots on Twitter who don’t like him and you’re just extremely ignorant about everything else related to him.
He was hurt last year, lost his top 3 WRers and the rookies they brought in were out for half the year.
He’s absolutely still in his prime in terms of arm talent. His play hasn’t dropped off at all.
You babbling about conspiracy theories or him being “surly” I don’t even know WTF you’re talking about with regard to the later issue. He’s “surly?” He’s the most laid back dude in the world. He hasn’t changed at all.
New York would love Rodgers. He’s a stud. If the Packers were 2 years further in their re-load, I’d be all for keeping him, but they just need too many things to go right in order to win it and I think the two 1sts are worth it to move on amicably now.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Did Rodgers consider the Jets’ lack of receiving talent? You know, the thing that made him play at his worst level in a decade last year? The Jets have one guy who can catch the ball and won’t have the picks/cash to get another if Rodgers shows up.
Garrett Wilson is really, really good, and Moore seems like he could be very solid with an actual QB. They need to replenish their receiving corps a bit if/when they cut Davis, but their offensive skill position group is perfectly solid. Certainly a far cry from what he started last year with in GB.
There’s one other maligned WR with talent that could experience a renaissance: link to thejetpress.com
In the glory days of Lombardi the former GB stars were shipped off to the Saints. In the modern era they seem to go to the Jets. The real question to me is how much? packer fans have been lead to believe they will get a treasure of draft picks and all will be fine in Love. Will it be a 500 type team of last year or will it go back to 13-4 and early exit in the playoffs.
Wasn’t even a .500 team with Rodgers for 17 games, watching him play he wasn’t at an elite level and I have doubts he returns to it in 2023. If he plays with a chip on his shoulder, he very well might. He didn’t in 2022.
There’s no way this the Jets can gain with this trade, regardless of draft pick compensation. While Rodgers is probably the greatest NFL QB to ever play, there is no way for Green Bay to be competitive with that contract on the books and no way for Green Bay to be competitive even after a trade. And any team who trades for Rodgers will almost equally be buried by that contract.
If Green Bay keep Rodgers, there’s a $58.3 million option bonus due before the season starts.
There’s only two possible win situations for Green Bay. Either Aaron Rodgers retires or Aaron Rodgers expires. Not a great life situation to be worth more dead than alive.
Okay, the Jets could win here if the Packers send Aaron Rodgers, his contract and a 1st and 2nd round draft pick to NY.
I assume this is humor, but then again, many Jets fans are this delusional.
“While Rodgers is probably the greatest NFL QB to ever play”
And that’s where you lost me.
Maybe you haven’t watched many games where Aaron Rodgers has made absolute fools of first class defenses. Tom Brady got hard-working GM/coach Bill Belichick. Aaron Rodgers got flakey complacent Mike McCarthy.
Brady is a system QB, a very good one. Rodgers plays QB like a jazz virtuoso improvises music.
Yeah well that great jazz virtuoso only got to the big show once. Again once. I’m not a Brady fan but I’ll take the guy who went to the big dance 10 times over the guy who went once.
Brady never won a Super Bowl without a top 8 defense.
Rodgers has had a total of TWO top 10 defenses in his CAREER (and won a Super Bowl that year).
10 Super Bowl appearances to 1. 7 Super Bowl victories to 1. There isn’t even an argument to be made that Rodgers is better than Brady.
I don’t measure QB play by Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins. Whether a team gets to a Super Bowl has more to do with the GM and the head coach than the QB.
Winning the Super Bowl is the pinnacle achievement for an NFL player. Rodgers plays the most important position in all of sports so he’s partially responsible for his teams failures. If he was the greatest as you say he would have more than one championship.
7 Super Bowl titles to 1. You have no argument.
That “hard-working GM/coach” is mediocre without Brady.
Sorry but he is
Saleh needs to win now. Jets GM needs to win soon. Woody has no patience and loves the big splash. No way Jets get a 3-time MVP for a 3rd rounder. Rodgers goes to Jets, Pack eats 1/2 his salary and in return they receive 1st Rounder this year, conditional 2nd next year (becomes a 1st if they make playoffs next season) and a 4th the year after.
Don’t. Just … don’t.
Rodgers brings a lot of talent to any locker room but he also bring complete disregard for accountability; on full display last season when he consistently dogged his WRs in the press.
Antics like his annual Groundhog Day “will he or won’t he” highlight his consistent narcissism and putting any/everything else secondary.
Personally, combined with the above, his price tag puts him squarely into the “hard pass” column
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As a Packers fan, The Jets can have him. Good luck to you dealing with the NewYork media
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The ego in the Jets QB room this season will be nuts. Aaron teaching Zach how to sit and relax. Zach teaching Aaron how to close hot moms.
Not likely because Wilson is a good bet to go the other way to back up Love.
They cannot trade Wilson due to the cap hit. Jets fans need to accept this simple fact: he’s a Jet for 2 more seasons
Wilson is Better than Love for sure!!
Unless Rodgers commits to showing up in NY at OTAs and getting on the same page with his new receivers, Jets fans are fooling themselves into thinking they’re going anywhere. It’ll simply be a repeat of last year where he doesn’t trust his guys because he never built a rapport with any of them.
The odds on the Jets reaching Super Bowl 58 have been cut in half with the Rodgers news. At the Caesars sportsbook, the bulk of the SB58 bets placed today are on the Jets.
This fall the AFC East schedule includes the division round-robin, AFC West, and NFC East. That’s a schedule that sells itself — with or without Aaron Rodgers wearing #12 in New York.
The only ones who don’t see the value in all that are the barely breathing NYC tabloids, greatly diminished NYC talk radio, and ESPN-addled sports fans.
As an NFL fan I would like to see it!
I hope the Green Bay front office & Rodgers are smart enough to try one more year and let’s hopefully put a halt to most of the drama & BS. Both need to check the egos at the door and concentrate on their jobs. Because LaFleur is overrated, Gutknuts is a lousy GM, and AR’s also starting to wear a little thin.
Not gonna lie, I came in for all the people complaining about the drama about AR12 demanding the headlines on a website where you have to click the link to read the story and was pleasantly surprised. I give it about 2 weeks before people start coming in blaming Rodgers for the media posting it and not the media for posting it.
Where ever he winds up I don’t care. Extremely talented player and makes most games entertaining to watch.
I suspect he is dealt for a 2-3 round pick this year, if not both a 2 & 3, then a conditional 1st based on what he/the team does next season, then parts. Nothing wrong with that to me. Jets get some guarantee to the deal, as do the Pack. Neither side is grossly disappointed and neither side is overly ecstatic.
OMG people go watch Jordan Love play… He’s not good at all!! After the games he started not one TV personality was even giving him props.. He’s so inaccurate its ridicules, he can not make throws down the field that matter.. He was way inaccurate in College too… If you’re a Packers fan and want to win a Super Bowl it’s not going to happen with Love… Send a HOF QB out the door that you know can win you a Super Bowl… So So So DUMB!!